Running ethernet cabling outside (on the cheap-ish)

[MurieFury]

Hey!


So I have a house with a separate entrance at the back... but the router will be basically at the front of the main house, leaving a barely adequate signal for the separate entrance (especially for gaming, I imagine). The total length is about 50-60m, including cable gymnastics going up/down walls. It'll go from the router, up into the ceiling and breaking out on the outside lip of the roof; from there, the cable will go along a shaded (by plastic, if I recall, and no direct sunlight at any point) part until it gets to the separate entrance. I may or may not drill through the wall, but I'll figure that out if I need to do it.

My problem is that the Ultra LAN 100m Outdoor CAT5e cable (Takealot) is R629 for double the length I'll need, and the wording of the description suggests that I'll need to go through the trouble of stripping the shell and putting on the RJ45 connectors manually (not a big deal, but still annoying, especially since I'd need to buy like a 12-pack of them for R100 or something when I only need 2). My other alternative is to use 3 of my already-owned Cat5e 20m cables (bought from Wootware), with some female-to-female connector things for R39e... and a fair amount of DI-WHY-esque plastic/PVC/wood.

Is there a cheap way to make the standard Cat5e cables I already have more durable on the cheap? No direct sunlight, no heavy water (but assume a few drips here and there during winter months). Should I just suck up the Advice from people who've done this kind of thing would be appreciated.

 

[gertvanjoe]

Well the crazy bastards who wired our plants IP Cameras did not care one inch about some Ultra cable. It's a chemical factory so plenty of elements always hanging around. (yes working inside a chemical factory is safish, but there is always some smells hanging out in such a factory, got to come from somewhere eh).

Anyways, this was suppose to be a safety thing for a maintenance turnaround, manglement liked it seemingly and two years in, it is still there with some cobwebs. At one point it even runs in a safety containment sewer, which at times gets some rainwater too) . 2 tears down the line, it is still working

But BTW, I'm not a network person and this is purely anecdotal evidence

 

[SILTECH786]

@souljazk @kevinswan007 they specialise in this field

 

[DannyBoyOPC]

maybe try scoop distribution or even cable feeder systems for a price.

 

[PHalanKS]

My advice would be to do it properly the first time. Use cat 5e "outdoor" without any connections in the middle. Don't stretch the cable if you suspend it anywhere, make sure it's properly supported. Put in drip loops where you need to. Consider terminating the cable with a female RJ45 jack and using a flylead indoors.

Anyone installing will probably charge at least R10/m. The crimping tool can be had under R100. You will likely need more than 2 connectors, especially if it's your first time. A basic tester can be pretty handy too if you can borrow one.

If you're around Benoni I can lend you a crimping tool, tester and box of connectors.

 

[bythecantloads]

You can ask Matrix (I know, don't judge) to make you a customer length.

I am currently running a cat5e cable 30m to my room. It goes into the roof, outside along the wall where it is supported by a gutter, through my window (which cannot close, no biggy no big deal) where it gets nicely routed. Been like this for 2 years, parts of the cable get morning summer sun.

 

[souljazk]

UltraLAN doesn't make the best cable. DO NOT buy any cable that is listed as CCA... Its cheap and crap. If you want to do it cheap, buy those adaptors aat somewhere like Scoop, should be approx R20ea or less. RJ45 Barrel Connector Female to Female

If you want to do it properly, get a 100m shielded (assuming there are live electrical cables running close to the data cable)

Linkbasic 100M Shielded UV Protected Cat5e Cable

Linkbasic's TC-100 is a 4 pair solid copper, Category 5e UV resistant, outdoor shielded cable offering protection for your network from devastating electrostatic discharge (ESD) attacks.

scoop.co.za

 

[MurieFury]

maybe try scoop distribution or even cable feeder systems for a price.

Thanks for this. Scoop is a godsend and I wasn't aware of it. Will definitely be picking up some stuff from them!

My advice would be to do it properly the first time. Use cat 5e "outdoor" without any connections in the middle. Don't stretch the cable if you suspend it anywhere, make sure it's properly supported. Put in drip loops where you need to. Consider terminating the cable with a female RJ45 jack and using a flylead indoors.

Anyone installing will probably charge at least R10/m. The crimping tool can be had under R100. You will likely need more than 2 connectors, especially if it's your first time. A basic tester can be pretty handy too if you can borrow one.

If you're around Benoni I can lend you a crimping tool, tester and box of connectors.

Wow, thanks for the generous offer. I'm in CPT unfortunately, otherwise I'd definitely have taken you up on your offer.

I'm probably fine doing the bulk of it myself since it's just supporting the cable along a straight wooden beam, for the most part (I probably won't bother with a nice looking connection for the next couple months -- it'll probably just tuck into an open window for now). I'll probably use some 'outdoor' Cat5e for the outdoor section only and regular Cat5e+connector when it's indoors.

You can ask Matrix (I know, don't judge) to make you a customer length.

I am currently running a cat5e cable 30m to my room. It goes into the roof, outside along the wall where it is supported by a gutter, through my window (which cannot close, no biggy no big deal) where it gets nicely routed. Been like this for 2 years, parts of the cable get morning summer sun.

Mine will probably be somewhat similar to this, along a wooden beam instead of along the wall. I'll also probably just slip it in through an open window lol.

UltraLAN doesn't make the best cable. DO NOT buy any cable that is listed as CCA... Its cheap and crap. If you want to do it cheap, buy those adaptors aat somewhere like Scoop, should be approx R20ea or less. RJ45 Barrel Connector Female to Female

If you want to do it properly, get a 100m shielded (assuming there are live electrical cables running close to the data cable)

Linkbasic 100M Shielded UV Protected Cat5e Cable

Linkbasic's TC-100 is a 4 pair solid copper, Category 5e UV resistant, outdoor shielded cable offering protection for your network from devastating electrostatic discharge (ESD) attacks.

scoop.co.za

Very much appreciate you steering me away from UltraLAN then -- total noob re networking stuff, especially outdoors. Will keep on the lookout for CCA -- thanks again.

I'll probably pick up something like a 50m shielded cable for the outside section and use connectors from Scoop (thanks for pointing them out by the way) with normal Cat5e cables for the inside sections.

 

[DannyBoyOPC]

Also maybe ask some carb members if they have a account at Scoop that they will allow you to use... helps with a little better pricing

 

[souljazk]

@MurieFury Im also in CT. I'v got spare crimpers, strippers if you need. But from the link of the shielded cable, it comes pre crimped. Just make sure that all your cable is either Spec A or Spec B , as some devices still don't swop over automatically, although you should not have an issue, little things like this can cause headaches .

Just use B, its what most if not all premade cabler are crimped as

https://showmecables-static.scdn3.secure.raxcdn.com/media/wysiwyg/RJ45-Pinout-T568B.jpg

Use some of these if you're not going to install plastic trunking:

Builders Cable Clip Round (10mm) - White (100 Pack)

www.builders.co.za

Just make sure they're slightly larger than the outside of the cable, so it doesn't pinch the cable , which overtime could lead to a crack in the jacket (outer plastic bit of the cable).

 

[fatty]

I would suggest leaving the shielded cable and running pvc tubing, if it’s a simple job and for a small exposed section shielded cable is un necessary.


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