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"Privacy" - What's the big deal?

What's your tin-foil hat rating?

  • 5 - I live in an off-line bubble and share as little as possible

    Votes: 7 7.9%
  • 4

    Votes: 10 11.2%
  • 3 - I only do what I have to. Life is inconvenient otherwise

    Votes: 35 39.3%
  • 2

    Votes: 14 15.7%
  • 1 - I click "yes" on everything. Don't read T&Cs

    Votes: 23 25.8%

  • Total voters
    89
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So, all those dick-pics I sent my wife on WhatsApp is probably available somewhere on the interwebz ... I'LL BE FAMOUS YET !
 
10 shekels says I'll eventually start getting spam because truecaller will sell the data they've collected.
 
It goes beyond money, the industry work in are busy developing intelligent surveillance systems able to detect your intent. This is a massive problem, these systems are all predictive of nature, meaning they may be accurate but they also do make mistakes.

So now I walk down the road, had a bad day at work and feel like punching a boxing bag, the systems picks up I have an intent to hurt someone and dispatches a police unit to come and investigate me? Do you see the problem here? Granted we are far away from this in SA but they are in a beta process with this in the states.

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This is exactly what Jacob Appelbaum said, in the film Citizen Four there is a short piece of him early in the film talking to people, he said pretty much that.
My take is that, with an innately stupid government, we're on some borrowed time in SA. But eventually the governments the world over will know when the population takes a shit, when they piss, and when they have sex. And that is wrong on so many levels its just not acceptable. It is being sold to the masses in the guise of "anti-terrorism", "anti-crime", and other euphemistic names. But at the end of the day, its always the same- a 1984 George Orwell fantasy come true.

My opinion is that this game started in the 70s already, when the wealthy few, the puppet masters discovered all this new technology that could be used to enslave and control humankind.

The day that things drastically change i.e. the tipping point is reached, is the day I disconnect from the net, and stop using electronic communications over public or otherwise accessible infrastructure.
 
It is being sold to the masses in the guise of "anti-terrorism", "anti-crime", and other euphemistic names. But at the end of the day, its always the same- a 1984 George Orwell fantasy come true.
This!!
The country with the most surveillance, the purveyor of such ideas is the one that finds itself in more wars than any other. It says it is free and brave, yet it watches it's citizens and even jails them for dissent. It is not brave, when it wages wars on 3rd world countries and overthrows governments who dare say anything contrary to the prevailing narrative.

The fight for privacy and mitigating unwarranted and mass surveillance is as important as fight in this digital age as the fight against slavery or any other system that subjugated people the world over. When your own thoughts are not private and it is near impossible to have a conversation between two people exclusively. That is an issue that is core to your freedoms as a human being.

The reason this isn't discussed with the urgency it demands is simply because our understanding, context and knowledge of history is so vastly distorted and fabricated out of whole cloth in many instances; that such vile ideas like wholesale surveillance and its implications are lost upon us. We become willing participants in our own oppression and we view the world and it's happenings entirely from these subjective and nonsensical binary narratives.
As stated in earlier replies, the core issue here has always existed and the answer is always the same, however those with vested interests can construct a system within which we reason. Therefor the most obvious answers are lost to us. We have increased surveillance yet we live under greater threats than ever before. All the while you're told you should be okay with surveillance because it keeps you safe, despite the fact that all evidence runs contrary to this claim.

Words are powerful, because that's how we express ideas. Controlling this is controlling everything about us. Seeking to monitor people, their conversations and activities is not only about selling this data, but controlling and dictating what we think, say, how we act and what we believe. The very things that make us who we are. Once one controls this, you can make people buy into their own peril and even support it.
It is no wonder that the ones most susceptible to this are the ones who have not only been propagandized, but are now incapable of seeing reality and favor the fiction of freedom and democracy - which they never had.
 
It is now almost 4 years since this post started, How is everybody doing? haha

Pretty sure every human East of Estonia knows my alt Reddit account password and my detailed location history. Waiting to see how it actually affects me.

I mean sure, if I was section commander in an anti-gang unit I'd probably be a lot more worried about who knows what about me, but I'm not, so I'm not.
 
I completely agree that unless you really have something to hide, I'm not sure what the big deal is. If anything the data will show them I spend too much time playing games and I drink too much. Not exactly something I'm not happy to openly admit anyway.

That's not my primary concern though...

The worrying part for me is how things are changing and "search results" aren't actually that anymore. They are now "my search results" and this creates little echo chambers that keep reinforcing ideas and perspective that are pleasing to you and slowly convinces you that you aren't wrong about the way you perceive or interpret things. This isn't exactly something I think we understand and I'm not sure how we limit the impact. I think there's a pretty severe disconnect between our biology and some reinforced patterns we've inherited over thousands of years and what technology is doing in terms of the data we are presented with are perceived and interpreted.

No idea how we get around that and I still think its a better alternative than any other option I have.

So meh, if you can't beat them, join them.
 

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