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Well fuck.
@UrBaN_BuNnY You had to tease them
 
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Time for some hype and discussion about the new Ada Lovelace GPUs, they sound insane from what some well-known leakers are saying.

4090 AD102, 24Gb GDDR6X 21Gbps, 600W - estimated at around 90-100TFLOPS and over 2.2x the performance of the RTX3090Ti.
4080 AD103, 16Gb GDDR6X, 450W.
4070 AD104, 12Gb GDDR6, 300W.



Time to start saving and making sure those PSUs are up to the task! :D
And just for the shit of it.


@Nyt Ryda tsek
 
If performance delta between 3080 and 4080 >15% I'll be surprised
 
3080Ti with the Nicehas LHR Unlock at 120 MH/s only makes about R40-50 profit a day according to Nicehash.

Mining and Crypto is in a slump now so it's actually going to be a great time for prices.
It is indeed, but after every slump is a pump, higher the price, higher the profit
 
The performance delta between the 3080 and 3090Ti is already surpassed that.

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I think you missed Mike's point - he is comparing the -80 level card in successive generations (3080 vs 4080) rather than the -80 level to the -90Ti level within the same generation (3080 vs 3090Ti).

However, your point still stands: the 3080 was like 39% faster than the 2080 based on TPU's performance index. So if the 4080 is less than 39% faster than the 3080, they will have failed to exceed the previous generational improvement.

However however, GN did a video where they showed the "frames per dollar" improvement of the 30- gen to the 20-gen was actually quite poor compared to e.g. the improvement from the 9- gen to the 10- gen - even if you took the 30- gen at MSRP. With the inflated prices we have seen over the past two years, the 30- gen actually showed quite a poor generational improvement when price is factored in.
 
I think you missed Mike's point - he is comparing the -80 level card in successive generations (3080 vs 4080) rather than the -80 level to the -90Ti level within the same generation (3080 vs 3090Ti).

However, your point still stands: the 3080 was like 39% faster than the 2080 based on TPU's performance index. So if the 4080 is less than 39% faster than the 3080, they will have failed to exceed the previous generational improvement.

However however, GN did a video where they showed the "frames per dollar" improvement of the 30- gen to the 20-gen was actually quite poor compared to e.g. the improvement from the 9- gen to the 10- gen - even if you took the 30- gen at MSRP. With the inflated prices we have seen over the past two years, the 30- gen actually showed quite a poor generational improvement when price is factored in.
Correct, and if what you said in bold is true I'm misinformed.
 
I'm also talking about pure rasterisation, not the software blackmagic they're developing which will obviously net compounded gains in performance y/y.
 
What the fuck does that even mean

3080 FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GEN FASTEST CARD, 2080TI
2080 FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GEN FASTEST CARD, 1080TI
1080 FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GEN FASTEST CARD, 980TI

YOU SAID IF 4080 ATLEAST 15% FASTER THAN 3080, YOU IMPRESSED.

SINCE 4080 GUARANTEED TO BE FASTER THAN 3090TI WHICH ALREADY >15% FASTER AT 4K, YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED.
IF IT IS NOT, YOU WILL STILL BE IMPRESSED - JUST BY HOW NVIDIA MANAGED TO FUKC UP THAT BADLY
 
3080 FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GEN FASTEST CARD, 2080TI
2080 FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GEN FASTEST CARD, 1080TI
1080 FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GEN FASTEST CARD, 980TI

YOU SAID IF 4080 ATLEAST 15% FASTER THAN 3080, YOU IMPRESSED.

SINCE 4080 GUARANTEED TO BE FASTER THAN 3090TI WHICH ALREADY >15% FASTER AT 4K, YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED.
IF IT IS NOT, YOU WILL STILL BE IMPRESSED - JUST BY HOW NVIDIA MANAGED TO FUKC UP THAT BADLY
So what you're saying is the 1030 is faster than the previous generation card which is slower than it?
 
Recently got a 3080 12G so I'll obviously be missing this upcoming generation.

Though jealous, I'll be happy if the Ray Tracing performance rumours are true and Ray Tracing becomes less of a "sacrifice" when actually using it.

Ray Tracing is the future man.
 
NVIDIA is going from a shitty 8nm - Samsung 8N is not comparable to TSMC's 7nm in the slightest - node to an excellent TSMC 5nm node, they've adjusted the SM to leverage more of the FP32 units, and they're doing this with even higher clock speeds. The IPC improvements, clock speed improvements, and the node shrink will allow them to bring you a gigantic piece of silicon with a mind-blowing number of fast and more work-efficient transistors. The 4090 will cost a massive amount of money, but it will be at least 80% faster than the 3090. If it isn't at least 80% then I'll be wondering where the hell they went wrong or what the issue is. I expect it to be more like 90-100%.

This generation, NVIDIA might drop the 4080 back down to 104, but AFAIK, it's staying on 102. Unfortunately, that means we will again see a 4080, 4080 Ti, 4090, and 4090 Ti, which will again make the 4080 less easily obtainable. Transistor counts don't scale linearly, but it's safe to assume where the 4090 is 80-100% over the 3090, the 4080 will be at least 70-90% over the 3080. It might sound kinda crazy, but he 4070 is already going to be 15% over the 3090. The 70 card has always been roughly on par with the highest tier card of the previous generation (this is not new), but this time around the 4070 will actually be a somewhat more meaningful upgrade over the 3090.

I will concede that my last point kinda makes the rest of it break down. You're going to ask, if the 4070 is only 15%+ faster than the 3090, then how the hell is the 4080 going to be 60%+ faster than it, and the 4090 is somehow going to be 80%+ faster than it. This would inevitably mean the 4080 is around 45% faster than the 70 card, which pretty much never happens. That's kinda a weird one - I don't really know. It might mean the 4070 is even faster.

On AMD's side, expect the 7950 XT to be the most monstrous GPU ever launched for mainstream consumers. Expect $2500-3000 and expect 150%-200% over the 6950 XT. I'm being serious, AMD are going bananas. I haven't a clue who they're trying to sell this thing to but more power to them. It's why I gave up on benchmarking, as inevitably every top tier enthusiast will own one or two of these bad boys. The best part is the current Radeon drivers have allowed AMD to catch up in DXR (not tie Ampere, but significantly improve), and AMD are claiming that they've finally nailed DXR. The DXR implementation in the console APU is already better superior than RDNA2's, so it's not that difficult to believe that their DXR will be tremendous this generation.

I guess this launch should be the most exciting of all time, unfortunately pretty much no one will be able to afford the lightning fast cards. Pretty much 4060s and 4070s will be the only card going around. Probably the 4080 as well I guess. TBH I'm more pissed at AMD for doing this because they're pretty much disqualifying 99% of enthusiasts from being able to own the fastest gaming card, although it doesn't really matter.

For anyone who's skeptical, leakers like kopite7kimi and the like as well as the insiders who feed RGT and NAAF info, are not BS'ers. Ampere was a bit of a shock because they changed the whole FP32 thing, and RDNA 2 was a shock (well it really shouldn't have been), because we simply didn't think RTG had the ability to make such a good architecture. If you go check out the shader counts of the 7950 XT and the 4090, as well as acknowledge the inherent IPC and clock improvements, it's hard to believe we're merely going to see another +40%-50% generation. And I mean, 3090 Ti being 50% faster than 2080 Ti while Ampere wasn't that impressive of a leap forward and was on a fairly underwhelming budget node - the 4090/Ti should be at least 70% this time around? Surely that.
 
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