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No response from Ki11em after payment

I called the bank to freeze the accounts, they told me that they are unable to do that without a SAPS Case number. Somehow Ki11em's accounts still got frozen.

I got his other cell from heinrich who previously dealth with him. I sent him a message that only had one tic (didn't go through), decided to send a message on my friend's phone that immediately went through (This was 2-3 min apart & my message still didn't go through) I found out what his name was from heinrich (Let's say Pietie). My friend asked him "Is this Pietie?" He responds with: "No, this is Jaco but how can I help?" We then told him that we will be opening a case with the SAPS. He then asked for my number (which he had on his other phone) and said that he was sorry he was busy etc etc. All of the sudden he messages me and says he didn't run away with the money and so forth, I could now send texts to him but my first message was still not going through (My messages to his other cell is also one tick only) I can only assume he blocked me on all devices and as soon as we said we're going to the SAPS was when he unblocked me. (I can only assume this)

So my question is: He was online before my friend sent him a text and he responded immediately after the first text, why not let your buyers know that you received their funds, you're a bit busy and will get back to them at this or that time? Plus why lie about your name? Why say your name is Jaco when it is not? Too much fishy stuff and red flags, I told him that I'm thankful that he refunded me, and I really am glad to have the funds back but I will definitely not deal with him again and will definitely recommend other users to stay away.
You must keep the bad deal.
 
Irrespective of the eventual outcome, at the very least there needs to be a negative itrader.

Breach of trust and 'ghosting' is totally unacceptable.
 
I called the bank to freeze the accounts, they told me that they are unable to do that without a SAPS Case number. Somehow Ki11em's accounts still got frozen.

I got his other cell from heinrich who previously dealth with him. I sent him a message that only had one tic (didn't go through), decided to send a message on my friend's phone that immediately went through (This was 2-3 min apart & my message still didn't go through) I found out what his name was from heinrich (Let's say Pietie). My friend asked him "Is this Pietie?" He responds with: "No, this is Jaco but how can I help?" We then told him that we will be opening a case with the SAPS. He then asked for my number (which he had on his other phone) and said that he was sorry he was busy etc etc. All of the sudden he messages me and says he didn't run away with the money and so forth, I could now send texts to him but my first message was still not going through (My messages to his other cell is also one tick only) I can only assume he blocked me on all devices and as soon as we said we're going to the SAPS was when he unblocked me. (I can only assume this)

So my question is: He was online before my friend sent him a text and he responded immediately after the first text, why not let your buyers know that you received their funds, you're a bit busy and will get back to them at this or that time? Plus why lie about your name? Why say your name is Jaco when it is not? Too much fishy stuff and red flags, I told him that I'm thankful that he refunded me, and I really am glad to have the funds back but I will definitely not deal with him again and will definitely recommend other users to stay away.
That sounded like intentional scamming, maybe building REP to take the big bucks.
 
Well, if OP goes to SAPS I'm pretty sure then your close shave would still count as an attempt to commit fraud/theft so another potential charge on a charge sheet.
Funny thing this whole "...report him to SAPS and open a case.." and not funny hahaha, sad funny in that it shows that the law in this country is not enforced or unenforceable. Irrespective of RICA, FICA and consumer protection act and all the supposed rules to work in the laws favour, the will to use these tools just does not exist.

I have done this now twice in the last two years. June 2020 and August last year.
No it wasn't on Carbonite deals but on Scumtree, so no worries there.
To date the following happened:
August 2021 case: received a SMS about 10 days ago that stated...All leads followed up, case closed. Docket will be re-opened upon new leads.
June 20200 case : Still investigating as the plaintif lives in PE. Though about two weeks ago received a whatsapp from seller after 18 months of that account being dormant. Long sob story on how he was mugged and the GPU , phone and money stolen etc. He wants to refund me but his accounts are frozen, can I have it unlocked.
In both situations I have written the money off as school fees by now, so decide to play along , so say I would do that if he refund me first upon which of course things go south with name calling, threats both legal and biblical (God will strike me dead, cause the spirit of the Lord lives in him and bad things happen to people that f##k with him(the seller)) and I am a joke for making an issue of such a trivial amount (24K)
Now here is the thing ; in both cases SAPS did absolutely nothing but issue a case number, which I used to lock both parties accounts.
How do I know that they did nothing: 08/2020 case did not even know that there was a case against him and that is how the account got locked.
06/2021 is still working at the same place and lives at the same address, I verified.
In both instances when I opened these cases at Brooklyn Police Station, Pretoria I heard a littany of the following arguments while the docets were opened for me not to open a case:
1) ..this is a really small amount, we deal with millions of rand cases everyday (R10500 and R24000)
2)... this will cost the state too much to investigate for that amount of money
3) ... it is COVID ?????
4) ...We are understaffed, this is COVID
5) ....you have to understand, our people are suffering that is why they have to do this

I shit you not this from the duty officers at the police station while writing up the complaint.
So in spite of RICA, FICA and all data handed over being relevant to the two parties as of a week ago nothing has happened.
At least in the 06/2020 case I can now file a civil case as he acknowledged the debt on whatsapp before the thing went south again.

So by all means file a case, get a case number, lock accounts and use information to eff up said scammers life, because criminally nothing happens.
 
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He read but never responded.

He didn't pay @Joshmeister on Thursday as promised. Josh got frustrated by getting empty promises etc. @Ki11eM paid josh the next day with the reference "happy?"

Definitely not someone you want to deal with.
He has been on carb, he has just posted another ad but hasn't responded on this thread as yet.

A macbook air at a price that seems to good to be true.
 
@Ki11eM your input here is now not only wanted, it's required. One more post anywhere on Carbonite and I'll ban your account again, and get everyone involved in your deals to open cases of fraud at SAPS. This REEKS and your shitty responses to date doesn't indicate anything other than a scammer.
 
OK screw it. Everyone, keep the cases open. He's obviously too good to respond here and give a proper recount of what happened. I'm convinced enough that he's a scammer and tried to scam everyone involved. Push the cases, keep his accounts locked. I'm reinstating his ban.
 
Proper account of what happened is that bro wanted to scam a li’l but then got spooked when he realized he’ll get a hiding.

Pity is that it makes iTrader less and less relevant, I did a deal with a very good buyer last week and couldn’t accommodate his totally reasonable request (half upfront half on delivery) because of scum like ki11em.
 

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