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mirror trading international, they legit?

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I know they might be a pyramid scheme but I'm running with them for the past year now and getting back good returns.

I don't generally do this type of thing, I only do forex and Luno BTC ETH but I moved in the past year a lot of BTC to MTI and last month after all the paranoia I moved it back to normal buy low sell high trading on Luno

Technically, everyone at MTI has good returns. It is a very nice structure, so I doubt it to be totally a straight forward pyramid scheme

because they show you a breakdown of the trades throughout every day.
So you are saying that you dont really care even if it is a scam (which it is), you are getting good returns and that's all that you care about?

You do realize that by doing so you are actively stealing other people's money (payouts are funded from new investors).
When (not if) this scam falls flat, by doing so you are implicating yourself in a criminal enterprise? Furthermore, you can be held fully liable to pay back the proceeds you received during this time?

I don't really know who you are, and this is not a personal attack against you, but if that is in fact your attitude towards this pyramid scheme, its not really something to brag about on a public forum.

For anyone else having any doubt, here is a semi complete list of previous MLM scams the top management has been involved in in the past:

Volishon
Joel Santiago

My Daily Choice
Cheri Ward/Marks
Clynton Marks
Willie Breedt

BTC Global
Cheri Ward/Marks
Clynton Marks
Liz Malton

Kipi
Johann Steynberg

Syntek
Johann Steynberg
Clynton Marks
Cheri Ward/Marks

Ker-ching
Johann Steynberg

Karatbars
Brett Maaske

MMM
Cheri Ward/Marks
Clynton Marks
Liz Malton

Thrive International
Scott Smith
Willie Breedt

Vaultage Solutions
Willie Breedt

Copy Profit Success Global
Joel Santiago
Cheri Ward/Marks

Crypto World Evolution
Clynton Marks
Liz Malton

Bitcaw
Andrew Caw

Cryptogold
Johann Steynberg
 

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They have been served a cease-and-desist order by the Texas State Securities Board: https://www.ssb.texas.gov/sites/default/files/files/news/ENF-20-CDO-1811.pdf

They have also been placed on the list of financially fraudulent organisations by the Canadian financial regulator AMF: Warning list of websites and companies that solicit investors illegally

Their previous broker FXChoice (who banned them) says their claims of using artificial intelligence software is false: "Before the account was blocked, they executed just a few trading operations, which were performed manually, were large and incurred substantial losses."
Can anyone tell me about My MTI Club? (mirrortradinginternational.com/mymticlub.com)
 
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As a side note - thanks to the OP for bringing up this thread...

I actually saw a friend invest with them a few months ago, and I was sketchy because generally you tell someone it's a bad idea but they trust strangers more than a friend...

so I've linked him to the leak and I'll let you know his reaction...
 

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Not that mybroadband is the most trusted source of info,
but the two links i posted about this are more then enough to prove this is a bunch of horse shit,
Yes you might be making money, every MLM lets early joiners make some money, the top 1% (which are all the fuckers from previous mlm's shut down in SA) are reaping the benefits, you can say it is great all you want, and you might be making some money, but the majority are not, and when they decide tot shut and move it is going to suck for a lot of people.


But hey, maybe they are doing the long con, gaining trust, knowing you will invest more and more cause 'the gains are so good bro, dad sign up, cousin come on man, come auntie lets do it' then good bye


oh and if your proof is some trading log printed out,
i would like to sell you some special beans worth a billion rand, but i will give them to you for a million, take my word, here is a certificate i made stating they are special
 

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I am so fucking against pyramid schemes and mlm's for praying on the weak minded and willed.
So you are saying that you dont really care even if it is a scam (which it is), you are getting good returns and that's all that you care about?

You do realize that by doing so you are actively stealing other people's money (payouts are funded from new investors).
When (not if) this scam falls flat, by doing so you are implicating yourself in a criminal enterprise? Furthermore, you can be held fully liable to pay back the proceeds you received during this time?

I don't really know who you are, and this is not a personal attack against you, but if that is in fact your attitude towards this pyramid scheme, its not really something to brag about on a public forum.

For anyone else having any doubt, here is a semi complete list of previous MLM scams the top management has been involved in in the past:

Volishon
Joel Santiago

My Daily Choice
Cheri Ward/Marks
Clynton Marks
Willie Breedt

BTC Global
Cheri Ward/Marks
Clynton Marks
Liz Malton

Kipi
Johann Steynberg

Syntek
Johann Steynberg
Clynton Marks
Cheri Ward/Marks

Ker-ching
Johann Steynberg

Karatbars
Brett Maaske

MMM
Cheri Ward/Marks
Clynton Marks
Liz Malton

Thrive International
Scott Smith
Willie Breedt

Vaultage Solutions
Willie Breedt

Copy Profit Success Global
Joel Santiago
Cheri Ward/Marks

Crypto World Evolution
Clynton Marks
Liz Malton

Bitcaw
Andrew Caw

Cryptogold
Johann Steynberg
Yep

this is why i posted that MYBB article, literally says btc global and MMM players are in MTI.

and yes, the people that are okay with this scam shit and know its a scam piss me off, what kind of subhuman scrap would willingly get on board with this trash
 

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I am so fucking against pyramid schemes and mlm's for praying on the weak minded and willed.

Yep

this is why i posted that MYBB article, literally says btc global and MMM players are in MTI.

and yes, the people that are okay with this scam shit and know its a scam piss me off, what kind of subhuman scrap would willingly get on board with this trash

Receiving a proceed from this scam makes you no better than the VBS looters.

Because it has been unequivocally proven that no trading takes place (none that generate the returns they claim) and that there is no bot it means your proceeds are other people's contributions. You are stealing money from pensioners, old people etc
 
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Check this link out. Your trust is in this lady cheriward [Threat Awareness Wiki]
Another link of MTI mti [Threat Awareness Wiki]
This company is busy avoiding VAT. It shows sales of less than R1m how is that possible????
They don't deal in the truth remember... they deal in BTC. lol.
Also:
 

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Check this link out. Your trust is in this lady cheriward [Threat Awareness Wiki]
Another link of MTI mti [Threat Awareness Wiki]
This company is busy avoiding VAT. It shows sales of less than R1m how is that possible????
Dude I looked at this woman on Facebook, new house new cars.

They must just be using everyone's investments - its so sad and scary at the same time!

Bet they have a wallet stashed away to escape our police when they get caught.
 

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Dude I looked at this woman on Facebook, new house new cars.

They must just be using everyone's investments - its so sad and scary at the same time!

Bet they have a wallet stashed away to escape our police when they get caught.

Yeah... and people are still fighting to defend them.

It's clear they are a ponzi because they point blank refuse to show verifiable proof that they are actually trading. Their "statements" are all fictitious, self generated. Their "proof of trading" videos actually proves they ARENT trading because it directly contradicts how they say they trade. They claim to only risk 3 to 5% of members BTC and use multiple brokers... yet the videos all show ONE account with the FULL pool balance.

I've been warning people for months, but I apparently just believe everything I see on the net.
 

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ITs very simple, like all the other schemes like this that have come to pass, once there is the target amount that the owners want, this entire system will shutdown and disappear. Then everyone's BTC will be gone and irretrievable. And if they got caught locally they will use your investment to buy their freedom and still have tons left over. so be a idiot and give them your money, or put in the time and do a legit trading and make a real return. money doesn't grow from nothing, never has and never will.
 

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I've been warning people for months, but I apparently just believe everything I see on the net.
Easy come easy go I guess!

All these people will come back to you and say "We should have listened"... And then probably proceed to try recruit you for another get-rich-quick scheme because they never learn!
 

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Easy come easy go I guess!

All these people will come back to you and say "We should have listened"... And then probably proceed to try recruit you for another get-rich-quick scheme because they never learn!
I know a number of people who tried to "game" the MTI system because they lost money in other scams in the past... They basically feel like they are just stealing from the scheme, when actually they are stealing from the old tannie down the road that someone signed up and told "your money will grow and you don't need to do anything...I'll help you [for that sweet 10% referral bonus]"
 

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I know a number of people who tried to "game" the MTI system because they lost money in other scams in the past
This angers me so much. The fact that you would willingly harm other people "to get your own back" because you were a f*cking idiot in the first place.
 

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Check this link out. Your trust is in this lady cheriward [Threat Awareness Wiki]
Another link of MTI mti [Threat Awareness Wiki]
This company is busy avoiding VAT. It shows sales of less than R1m how is that possible????
Thanks for these links, now I'm on the tor network down a rabbit hole looking at the founder's transactions :oops:

Withdrawn130.20470546
R 23 078 225.46
Withdrawn14.58892545
R 2 585 824.45

Wow people are going to lose a lot of money, look at this:

Deposited 0.19689496
R 34 898.79
Withdrawn 24.70033983
R 4 378 029.27

Deposited 0.00323053
R 572.60
Withdrawn 6.01910148
R 1 066 859.92
 

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The MyBB article has a little more substance than the other ones that landed a little earlier.


Of course the head of communication will come out and say everyone else is lying/wrong again. It's her standard defense... Refuse to prove that MTI is really trading/holding the BTC and when someone questions that they are negative/wrong/lying. Their supposed broker made official statements saying MTI wasn't actually trading on their platform with a bot - nope they are lying.

Thanks for these links, now I'm on the tor network down a rabbit hole looking at the founder's transactions :oops:

Withdrawn130.20470546
R 23 078 225.46
Withdrawn14.58892545
R 2 585 824.45

Wow people are going to lose a lot of money, look at this:

Deposited 0.19689496
R 34 898.79
Withdrawn 24.70033983
R 4 378 029.27

Deposited 0.00323053
R 572.60
Withdrawn 6.01910148
R 1 066 859.92
I spent some time on there... I found people I know. Some of them have put in over R500k... I warned them... they told me I was "just believing something I read on the internet"
 

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