movaid7
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Is there a 24" equivalent, why is everything so expensive in SA, screen on Amazon - $199 the same one in SA is R5k.
Which screen is $199 on Amazon? I don't see the Mecer one there.
Is there a 24" equivalent, why is everything so expensive in SA, screen on Amazon - $199 the same one in SA is R5k.
Mecer is a South African brand I think so anything on Amazon wouldn't be called Mecer but it might use the same panel.Which screen is $199 on Amazon? I don't see the Mecer one there.
Mecer is a South African brand I think so anything on Amazon wouldn't be called Mecer but it might use the same panel.
Fair enough, I was thinking of the UFD Tech video where they mentioned the panels but I had a look and they don't mention a $199 one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhZeqdZ6XxE&tThanks but I can't find any 1440p panels for $199 on there either, let alone a 144hz one.
Thanks! That did the trick for the washed out colours. It's of course far from perfect, but from a quick test drive it is good enough for gaming. I will of course tweak further and see how good I can get it.
I knew I wouldn't be getting good IPS level accuracy, but out of the box it was a bit worse than expected.
I tried Wolfenstein the Old Blood, but it's capped at 60fps so not really a good test. Running at 30fps the flickering is worse, so that is probably below the threshold. At 60 fps it is pretty much imperceptible in this game.
I tried running with only a single monitor, and tried all 3 my DP ports, but I get flickering on all of them. At this stage I don't really care, as the monitor is good even without freesync at 144hz.
I'll probably move it back a bit at some stage. For now my desk layout doesn't really allow it, and I do enjoy the immersion.
I read this earlier and didn't even notice you were quoting me, I was just talking in general, I think I was looking at a Dell 24" 1080P 144Hz on Amazon which was $199 but basically double that locally.Which screen is $199 on Amazon? I don't see the Mecer one there.
So this flickering thing is very weird, as I have not experienced it once, or at least I don't know what it looks like
From day 1 I have been running with Gsync Compatiblity Enabled and have not seen any of these issues. Could it maybe be panel lottery or am I just immune to this
I am definitely going to try the CPKeeper app as mentioned above.
@Kerrits - How is it going dude? Been a while since our Frog days
Sure. That is how I understood it as well.Note CPKeeper doesn't actually add configurability. It'd just that Windows isn't great at enforcing it's colour settings and ICC profiles, most fullscreen apps overwrite them and return you to default. CPKeeper however creates it's own profile from your colour settings and can than enforce them and keep them in place 24/7 unlike Windows itself.
So the tweaks are done through the nVidia colour settings. CPKeeper just locks them in place better than the nVidia control panel can.
So this flickering thing is very weird, as I have not experienced it once, or at least I don't know what it looks like
From day 1 I have been running with Gsync Compatiblity Enabled and have not seen any of these issues. Could it maybe be panel lottery or am I just immune to this
I am definitely going to try the CPKeeper app as mentioned above.
@Kerrits - How is it going dude? Been a while since our Frog days
In any event - To be perfectly clear to anyone who is looking to purchase this monitor, please don't let my experiences negatively influence your decision. As CRE4MPIE has said, VAs are the way they are, and it's entirely possible I am simply not used to them. My various efforts at interrogating the problem have led to me expressing my frustration, and I recognise and apologise for the fact that this is not helpful to people trying to make a decision.
What I am doing on my end, to finalise the whole thing will be to plug it into a friend's computer this week, just to eliminate any of the issues being something iffy on my end and based on that, I will make a decision on how to proceed.
I really had hoped to help - not hinder - people looking at buying this monitor, and if there's anything I can do to ameliorate the concerns I may have caused, please feel free to request it.
@CRE4MPIE Sorry if I was a bit snippy earlier; I am happy to chat about the monitor, I was just taken aback at your perception of my attitude, but I've given it some thought and I realise I was probably not helping by being anything that entirely objective about the whole situation.
Yo dude. You ever get to the bottom of this? I got the monitor too, and I love it, but I have the same iCue flicker you have. I see it in games sometimes when in menus, but havent really paid closer attention. I definitely have that same flicker in iCue though, and only when GSync is on. Wondering if it might be faulty or is this just how its supposed to be?
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. It's not really a big issue, and I put 70 hours into Sekiro with 0 issues. Apart from icue I see nothing it dos that on. Only menus in some games. Overall this monitor is a game changer for me so I'm super happy with it. Was just curious and from what I have seen online it's not only this monitor that does it.Neither. I think that's a limitation one has to live with when a cheap FreeSync display tries to do GSync.
Remember nVidia always said that not every display would be 100% perfect with it.
So, I installed latest driver yesterday
So, I installed latest driver yesterday, and the issue is gone. No more flicker in iCue, and it's smooth when being dragged around. Great stuff!
Hey bud. I have heard people complain about flickering when enabling gsyce. You should return it as a warranty claim to get your screen replaced. It will usually occur with freesyce cards if it happens with gsyce. Heard a tec youtuber I think hardware unboxed say that said you should then get it replaced. All up to you bud. Best of luck.I installed the latest nVidia driver last night, but still get flickering in Dota 2 when I turn on Gsync.
Hey bud. I have heard people complain about flickering when enabling gsyce. You should return it as a warranty claim to get your screen replaced. It will usually occur with freesyce cards if it happens with gsyce. Heard a tec youtuber I think hardware unboxed say that said you should then get it replaced. All up to you bud. Best of luck.
Hi guys, I have now owned this monitor for 3 weeks or so and below are my findings:
* the colors are pretty good out of the factory but an adjustment going from an IPS monitor, I've played with these settings for weeks only to revert back to factory presets
* refresh rate works great as expected
* there are clear issues with ghosting on this VA panel which is expected, especially with smearing blacks in dark scenes and texture flickering on black to white contrast (i.e. Far Cry 5 at night, PUBG on Sanhok inside buildings, Skyrim at night) - this is even on the highest settings for response rate (fastest mode). I also found that the black smearing/ghosting is worse at 144 hz and better at 120 hz and below
* Freesync works as most other Gsync Compatible monitors - pretty good for the most part apart from the brightness flickering in menus etc. This basically happens on VA panels because at lower refresh rate the screen runs a bit darker/dimmer i.e. 60 hz and brighter above 90 hz, when the game fluctuates a lot like in menus (i.e. PUBG, Apex Legends) as the fps keep dropping to 30 fps and then up above 100 fps etc. - this is where the flickering is most evident. *I FOUND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR THIS MONITOR* - so what I did to resolve this is the following to help those in need and this will most likely work for other Freesync monitors too: Download an application called CRU (free to download), open it, click on EDIT at the top, change your Freesync range from 48 - 146 to 90 - 146. Save and restart the PC, switch off monitor and on again and re-enable Gsync in the driver. Then in the Nvidia Control Panel make sure that you enable Vsync globally (this is the correct way to implement Freesync anyway, Vsync only engages out of the Freesync range so you'll still get no input lag between 90 and 141 fps). Then cap your fps in all games with Rivatuner (comes with MSI Afterburner) to 141 and keep your refresh rate on 144 hz. Most of the flickering will disappear as there are no crazy hz jumps anymore. Also, the great thing here is that if a game is running at 70 fps it will double up the hz and will run with Freesync at 140 hz if the game is at 65 fps, it will run at 130 hz and this will work dynamically. The dead zone will be between 73 and 89 fps where it will use Vsync instead (hardly noticeable but a good compromise to get Freesync working without flickering). My suggestion is frame lock more demanding games at like 65 fps for a smooth experience and the FPS games that are fast paced must run above 90 fps at all times - then issue resolved. I really hope this helps someone
* Here are all my settings that I use with this monitor after fiddling for days on end: Input DP, Brightness - 90, Contrast - 50, DCR - Off, Gamma - 2.4 (more accurate to sRGB, don't use 2.2 as this is an incorrect default setting, Color Temperature - Warm (tried calls and user and it just never looks right), the rest of the settings should be default here, don't fiddle with Saturation and Hue, leave at 50, Bypass - Off, Sharpness - 50, Response Time - High, Noise Reduction - Off, Super Resolution - Off, DLC - Off, FreeSync - On, The rest of the settings should be left on default
In summary, should you buy this monitor - well the answer is - it depends, this monitor is pretty much on par with more expensive VA panels and is almost half the price, so if you don't mind slow response times, black to white/gray to gray transitions and minor smearing/ghosting in dark scenes then this monitor is amazing for the price - large screen and curved, high refresh rate, 1440P, Freesync (after configuration), great contrast, good colors (albeit sometimes overly bright and washed out at times compared to IPS). You won't get bigger and better for this price unless you go TN panel which has it's own problems and poor viewing angles etc. If the smearing bothers you - don't buy a VA panel, rather save up and get an IPS instead.
I registered specifically to help people on this forum who own this monitor or are considering buying it. I thought I could be of help.
Two things.
That was my exact experience with the colours on the GN32Q as well.
And that Freesync window change is very interesting because from what I remember reading quite a while ago is that the GN32Q's FreeSync window is actually 90-144Hz and people were using CRU to bring it down to 48.
I really don't consider the panel any slower than IPS though, and I've got one of the fastest IPSs arround. The difference is that despite the 3000:1 contrast VA panels are meant to have, it feels like it has less colour separation than the IPS. So on the IPS it will blur equally as bad but because the colours are all so strong you can still tell what's going on in the blur which you can't so much on the VA (AND TN's actually).
Also if you are dropping the gamma with CPKeeper it will feel slower still because monitors are always slower at lower gamma, this even applies to TNs actually.
It actually took me a while to get used to the speed of the IPS coming from the VA, I had to turn GSync off to get similar speed because with GSync on it felt slower (in the game I was playing at the time).
Mine works like a bomb
I don't have any issues with ghosting or flickering in menus
Got it running 144hz with gsync and Bfv looks amazing on ultra.
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Ye those games I don't play.It only flickers in certain games, BF was also fine for me, no flickering at all. But in Apex Legends slight flickering on the loading screens and PUBG on loading screens quite visible and sometimes in game if your FPS fluctuates wildly. So if you do come across some brightness flickering in future - this CRU fix will work, if it doesn't bother you, then great
Hi guys, I have now owned this monitor for 3 weeks or so and below are my findings:
* the colors are pretty good out of the factory but an adjustment going from an IPS monitor, I've played with these settings for weeks only to revert back to factory presets
* refresh rate works great as expected
* there are clear issues with ghosting on this VA panel which is expected, especially with smearing blacks in dark scenes and texture flickering on black to white contrast (i.e. Far Cry 5 at night, PUBG on Sanhok inside buildings, Skyrim at night) - this is even on the highest settings for response rate (fastest mode). I also found that the black smearing/ghosting is worse at 144 hz and better at 120 hz and below
* Freesync works as most other Gsync Compatible monitors - pretty good for the most part apart from the brightness flickering in menus etc. This basically happens on VA panels because at lower refresh rate the screen runs a bit darker/dimmer i.e. 60 hz and brighter above 90 hz, when the game fluctuates a lot like in menus (i.e. PUBG, Apex Legends) as the fps keep dropping to 30 fps and then up above 100 fps etc. - this is where the flickering is most evident. *I FOUND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR THIS MONITOR* - so what I did to resolve this is the following to help those in need and this will most likely work for other Freesync monitors too: Download an application called CRU (free to download), open it, click on EDIT at the top, change your Freesync range from 48 - 146 to 90 - 146. Save and restart the PC, switch off monitor and on again and re-enable Gsync in the driver. Then in the Nvidia Control Panel make sure that you enable Vsync globally (this is the correct way to implement Freesync anyway, Vsync only engages out of the Freesync range so you'll still get no input lag between 90 and 141 fps). Then cap your fps in all games with Rivatuner (comes with MSI Afterburner) to 141 and keep your refresh rate on 144 hz. Most of the flickering will disappear as there are no crazy hz jumps anymore. Also, the great thing here is that if a game is running at 70 fps it will double up the hz and will run with Freesync at 140 hz if the game is at 65 fps, it will run at 130 hz and this will work dynamically. The dead zone will be between 73 and 89 fps where it will use Vsync instead (hardly noticeable but a good compromise to get Freesync working without flickering). My suggestion is frame lock more demanding games at like 65 fps for a smooth experience and the FPS games that are fast paced must run above 90 fps at all times - then issue resolved. I really hope this helps someone
* Here are all my settings that I use with this monitor after fiddling for days on end: Input DP, Brightness - 90, Contrast - 50, DCR - Off, Gamma - 2.4 (more accurate to sRGB, don't use 2.2 as this is an incorrect default setting, Color Temperature - Warm (tried calls and user and it just never looks right), the rest of the settings should be default here, don't fiddle with Saturation and Hue, leave at 50, Bypass - Off, Sharpness - 50, Response Time - High, Noise Reduction - Off, Super Resolution - Off, DLC - Off, FreeSync - On, The rest of the settings should be left on default
In summary, should you buy this monitor - well the answer is - it depends, this monitor is pretty much on par with more expensive VA panels and is almost half the price, so if you don't mind slow response times, black to white/gray to gray transitions and minor smearing/ghosting in dark scenes then this monitor is amazing for the price - large screen and curved, high refresh rate, 1440P, Freesync (after configuration), great contrast, good colors (albeit sometimes overly bright and washed out at times compared to IPS). You won't get bigger and better for this price unless you go TN panel which has it's own problems and poor viewing angles etc. If the smearing bothers you - don't buy a VA panel, rather save up and get an IPS instead.
I registered specifically to help people on this forum who own this monitor or are considering buying it. I thought I could be of help.
Hey - I just wanted to say thank you for your investigations and advice. I have not tested extensively yet, but so far your recommendations seem to have made a noticeable difference, especially wrt to the flickering issue (still experience it in some scenarios, but it's definitely gone in more cases than not, and where it is present, it seems to be less obvious).
In any event, your efforts are really appreciated.
Hey - I just wanted to say thank you for your investigations and advice. I have not tested extensively yet, but so far your recommendations seem to have made a noticeable difference, especially wrt to the flickering issue (still experience it in some scenarios, but it's definitely gone in more cases than not, and where it is present, it seems to be less obvious).
In any event, your efforts are really appreciated.
Anyone done a direct comparison of this monitor to a Dell S2719DGF?