[Wanted] Inverter kit (new/used) - Resellers welcome

[ovisser1]

Item Wanted: 2400VA Inverter and 2 batteries (200ah+)
Packaging Essential: If shipped
Desired Age: Within warranty if used, otherwise new
Location: JHB
Willing to accept a shipped item: Yes, but would prefer local.
Ballpark/Budget Amount: Up to R15k depending on the setup.

I can get 12V 200ah batteries new for R4800 each from battery center and a mecer inverter off of takealot for R3200.

So a new setup with 2 batteries and a inverter would be R14k+- (overestimated for unforeseen costs like the cables)


Its only to power a PC and screens for now. I would say at most the PC would draw 850w (including screens).
It wont be moved, so I don't really care about a trolley. It'll be behind a desk anyways.

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[IoanisZA]

Item Wanted: 2400VA Inverter + batteries
Packaging Essential: If shipped
Desired Age: Within warranty if used, otherwise new
Location: JHB
Willing to accept a shipped item: Yes, but would prefer local.
Ballpark/Budget Amount: Up to R15k depending on the setup.

I can get 12V 200ah batteries new for R4800 each from battery center and a mecer inverter off of takealot for R3200.

So a new setup with 2 batteries and a inverter would be R14k+- (overestimated for unforeseen costs like the cables)


Its only to power a PC and screens for now. I would say at most the PC would draw 850w (including screens).
It wont be moved, so I don't really care about a trolley. It'll be behind a desk anyways.

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Ups, Inverters and Powerbank :: Inverters With Batteries :: Mecer 2400VA Inverter + 2x 100AH Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 1440W

Please note - an additional charge of R800 shipping applies owing to the weight of the battery Mecer has been one of South Africa?s top-selling PCs over the past two decades Mustek ongoing interaction within the international IT industry has ensured that Mecer has remained a techno-leader at the

pclinkshop.co.za

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[ovisser1]

Ups, Inverters and Powerbank :: Inverters With Batteries :: Mecer 2400VA Inverter + 2x 100AH Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 1440W

Please note - an additional charge of R800 shipping applies owing to the weight of the battery Mecer has been one of South Africa?s top-selling PCs over the past two decades Mustek ongoing interaction within the international IT industry has ensured that Mecer has remained a techno-leader at the

pclinkshop.co.za

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Thank you, but the problem is two fold.
1) Pc link shop is worse than the ANC when it comes to upholding promises. I wont pay them a cent again without having the products in front of me.
2) I want 200ah batteries (Should have perhaps specified it). 100ah wont last long when drawing 800w+-.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

You have a link for those batteries? Are those the Mecer lithiums you're looking at? If so - are you sure that inverter can couple well with those batteries?

 

[ovisser1]

Rather spend a little more and go with a LifePo4 battery

Any idea on average costs for them ?
A quick google gave me this;

Takealot

www.takealot.com

14k a battery is a bit steep.

You have a link for those batteries? Are those the Mecer lithiums you're looking at? If so - are you sure that inverter can couple well with those batteries?

I unfortunately don't have a link, referral from a friend who bought from them so I called in.
Said friend has the same batteries on the same inverter running smoothly.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Any idea on average costs for them ?
A quick google gave me this;

Takealot

www.takealot.com

14k a battery is a bit steep.



I unfortunately don't have a link, referral from a friend who bought from them so I called in.
Said friend has the same batteries on the same inverter running smoothly.

I actually deleted that post thinking it was redundant and assumed you were looking at lithiums.
Something along these lines would be a better solution than AGMs/Lead Acids

Hubble S-100 100AH 12V 1.2kWh Lithium Battery - Sustainable.co.za

<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Features</strong></p> <ul class=disc style="text-align: left;"> <li>Internal Battery Management System.</li> <li>BMS protects internal cells and ensures smooth operation.</li> <li>Excellent high temperature perform

www.sustainable.co.za

 

[Smurf]

I got the other day Gel batteries 200ah for R3 900 each from one of our suppliers.

silly question why not just buy the inverter standalone (pure sine wave) and add the batteries with a battery charger? that is what I did. Trolley makes it convenient. price vs conveniece

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Just my opinion :

If you're going to spend now, rather up that budget a tad and futureproof whatever you're installing. Your needs will inevitably evolve and grow. With the current energy crisis in this country it's a certainty I'd say.

If you buy that inverter coupled with those batteries, it's just a matter of time before you find yourself selling it at a loss for a more robust solution. Does that inverter have a Solar charge controller?

 

[Off-The-Chart]

this with the upgrade to deep cycle?

Axpert Type Pure Sine 3000VA Inverter Trolley + 2x 100Ah Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (50A PWM SOLAR) (150-200 cycles) - GeeWiz

Axpert Type Pure Sine 3000VA Inverter Trolley + 2x 100Ah Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (50A PWM SOLAR) (150-200 cycles) for sale online at the Best Prices! Door to Door and Overnight Delivery

www.geewiz.co.za

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

this with the upgrade to deep cycle?

Axpert Type Pure Sine 3000VA Inverter Trolley + 2x 100Ah Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (50A PWM SOLAR) (150-200 cycles) - GeeWiz

Axpert Type Pure Sine 3000VA Inverter Trolley + 2x 100Ah Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (50A PWM SOLAR) (150-200 cycles) for sale online at the Best Prices! Door to Door and Overnight Delivery

www.geewiz.co.za

"Axpert Type" means clones - essentially knockoffs. They come with inferior internals and incompatible firmware's to the originals etc.
Realistically though, if you just want something for right now to get you by and you manage the load ensuring those batteries aren't cycled or discharged to death - it should meet that requirement. And for 11k I guess it wouldn't be money ill spent. Setting the expectation of what it will do for you and what it won't/can't. If futureproofing isn't a big deal - then I guess it is an easy option for now.

 

[Off-The-Chart]

"Axpert Type" means clones - essentially knockoffs. They come with inferior internals and incompatible firmware's to the originals etc.
Realistically though, if you just want something for right now to get you by and you manage the load ensuring those batteries aren't cycled or discharged to death - it should meet that requirement. And for 11k I guess it wouldn't be money ill spent. Setting the expectation of what it will do for you and what it won't/can't. If futureproofing isn't a big deal - then I guess it is an easy option for now.

true, although I would look at that kit before I look at one of those Ellies ones tbh

and yeah, unfortunately the reality is, if you want proper, it will cost

I would have recommended a Victron Multiplus II 3kva, but that alone is about R20k (yes yes, you can get cheaper again)

 

[ovisser1]

Just my opinion :

If you're going to spend now, rather up that budget a tad and futureproof whatever you're installing. Your needs will inevitably evolve and grow. With the current energy crisis in this country it's a certainty I'd say.

If you buy that inverter coupled with those batteries, it's just a matter of time before you find yourself selling it at a loss for a more robust solution. Does that inverter have a Solar charge controller?

Knowing the requirements - What would your recommendation be ?

While I would like to be gaming during loadshedding, its not worth 30k for me though.
Then I'd rather pay 8-10k for a prebuilt kit and power the TV for a lot longer than the normal loadshedding sessions.

this with the upgrade to deep cycle?

Axpert Type Pure Sine 3000VA Inverter Trolley + 2x 100Ah Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (50A PWM SOLAR) (150-200 cycles) - GeeWiz

Axpert Type Pure Sine 3000VA Inverter Trolley + 2x 100Ah Battery (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (50A PWM SOLAR) (150-200 cycles) for sale online at the Best Prices! Door to Door and Overnight Delivery

www.geewiz.co.za

What Qui said above, I don't trust them. Would rather buy Mecer and know what I am getting. Even if "what I'm getting" isn't the best

 

[Off-The-Chart]

Knowing the requirements - What would your recommendation be ?

While I would like to be gaming during loadshedding, its not worth 30k for me though.
Then I'd rather pay 8-10k for a prebuilt kit and power the TV for a lot longer than the normal loadshedding sessions.


What Qui said above, I don't trust them. Would rather buy Mecer and know what I am getting. Even if "what I'm getting" isn't the best

well then there is the Mecer "Axpert"

3000VA Mecer Axpert Pure Sine Inverter + 2x 100Ah Battery Trolley (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (150-200 cycles) - GeeWiz

3000VA Mecer Axpert Pure Sine Inverter + 2x 100Ah Battery Trolley (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 3000W (150-200 cycles) for sale online at the Best Prices! Door to Door and Overnight Delivery

www.geewiz.co.za

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Knowing the requirements - What would your recommendation be ?

While I would like to be gaming during loadshedding, its not worth 30k for me though.
Then I'd rather pay 8-10k for a prebuilt kit and power the TV for a lot longer than the normal loadshedding sessions.


What Qui said above, I don't trust them. Would rather buy Mecer and know what I am getting. Even if "what I'm getting" isn't the best

You have a very simple requirement - in context. If your requirement doesn't evolve at all - then pretty much any of these off the shelf 'bundles' will meet that requirement. As long as you practice good battery management on those Lead Acids - they will last for a bit.
Also, if that requirement remains simplistic then shelling out a shitload for a more futureproof system might not be the answer for you.

What I will say is this : Those Axpert Type inverters coupled with decent lead acids and a decent warranty on it all - isn't dogshit. It will do exactly what it says on the label as long as you keep an eye on it periodically making sure the system is running optimally.

Also, Geewiz isn't the worst to buy from. They do honor their warranties. I bought an inverter many moons ago from them that went pop and they replaced it no questions asked.

I feel compelled to add though - whichever Inverter you go with - ensure its Pure Sine and not Modified Sine.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Oh - also - those bundles with 2x 100ah AGMS/Lead Acids may not work for you - rather explore the Lithiums or at least 2x 200AH or 4x 100AH configurations.

 

[ovisser1]

Oh - also - those bundles with 2x 100ah AGMS/Lead Acids may not work for you - rather explore the Lithiums or at least 2x 200AH or 4x 100AH configurations.

Correct, thank you.

I am looking at 2 x 12V x 200ah.
My minimum would be 5000w for a kit. would give me 3hours of 850w draw without exceeding 50% battery capacity.
I think the total draw would be a bit less, but I am overestimating to prolong battery life

 

[Crouchinglee]

I have question you guys might be able to help with @Qui_Illustrati .
On certain inverters it says incompatible with Lithium batteries / Gel and I still hear of people working said batteries with the abovementioned inverter, what makes the inverter not compatible with the battery and what are the dangers of disregarding the warnings?

 

[moedeez]

Mitabyte cc

Mitabyte, mitabyte.co.za, laptops, notebooks, netbooks, tablets, ipad, printer, software, cellular, networking

www.mitabyte.co.za

Would something like this work for you? A bit over the price, but is Pure Sine

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

I have question you guys might be able to help with @Qui_Illustrati .
On certain inverters it says incompatible with Lithium batteries / Gel and I still hear of people working said batteries with the abovementioned inverter, what makes the inverter not compatible with the battery and what are the dangers of disregarding the warnings?

Might want to start another thread
Don't want to hijack OP's but a quick answer :

For the most part Incompatible is reference to the fact that battery information can't and won't be reported/logged and managed by the inverter. The firmware doesn't accommodate for reliable monitoring and marrying of the inverter to a lithium battery chemistry. Most folks couple them with the inverters using a custom configuration where the user defines the battery settings manually in terms of Bulk, Float, Cutover to Grid, Cutover to battery voltages, Charge Current etc. There is room to get it wrong and screw things up. So - technically it can work just not seamlessly and self managed. Decent Lithiums usually have a decent BMS as well - so they self manage essentially. It's better though, considering what these things cost, to rather marry up a Lithium battery or bank with an inverter capable of fully reporting, logging and managing it. Dangers are getting it wrong and messing up the batteries and or/inverter through undercharge/overcharge etc

 

[ovisser1]

Mitabyte cc

Mitabyte, mitabyte.co.za, laptops, notebooks, netbooks, tablets, ipad, printer, software, cellular, networking

www.mitabyte.co.za

Would something like this work for you? A bit over the price, but is Pure Sine

If the inverter was a bit smaller, yes.
5kw is heavy overkill since I don't plan on using anything other than a PC OR TV on it.

Might want to start another thread
Don't want to hijack OP's but a quick answer :

For the most part Incompatible is reference to the fact that battery information can't and won't be reported/logged by the inverter. The firmware doesn't accommodate for reliable monitoring and marrying of the inverter to a lithium battery chemistry. Most folks couple them with the inverters using a custom configuration where the user defines the battery settings manually in terms of Bulk, Float, Cutover to Grid, Cutover to battery voltages etc. So - technically it can work just not seamlessly. Decent Lithiums usually have a decent BMS as well - so they self manage essentially. It's better though, considering what these things cost, to rather marry up a Lithium battery or bank with an inverter capable of fully reporting, logging and managing it.

Please, go right ahead.

I also did not know the answer, so I appreciate it

 

[Off-The-Chart]

If the inverter was a bit smaller, yes.
5kw is heavy overkill since I don't plan on using anything other than a PC OR TV on it.


Please, go right ahead.

I also did not know the answer, so I appreciate it

but you said your minimum would be 5000w for a kit?

 

[ovisser1]

but you said your minimum would be 5000w for a kit?

True, that's my mistake, I should've specified that I'm talking about battery capacity.
Inverter can happily be smaller - I don't need 5000w inverter.