Intel vs 5900X - confirm my thoughts / bust my bubble

[zedwunare]

I am planning on a new PC build which I'll be buying bits and bobs for over the coming months.

For now I am debating 10900k, 11900k and 5900X primarily on the basis of price/performance sweet spot with them all seemingly sitting at around R10k.

I am leaning towards the 5900X due to number of cores - but what are the downsides?

• I haven't actively tried to find stock so could this be a problem?
• Is there any specific downside to going the AMD route I should consider?

My applications will be occasional FS2020, some video editing in Resolve and streaming Steam VR games to my Quest, maybe also running some virtualisation for doing some server testing.

 

[MinimumMaximum]

Intel 12th gen around the corner. Would be better to wait a bit

 

[superrob]

@Moemfie_ZA

 

[goldfritter]

I am planning on a new PC build which I'll be buying bits and bobs for over the coming months.

For now I am debating 10900k, 11900k and 5900X primarily on the basis of price/performance sweet spot with them all seemingly sitting at around R10k.

I am leaning towards the 5900X due to number of cores - but what are the downsides?

• I haven't actively tried to find stock so could this be a problem?
• Is there any specific downside to going the AMD route I should consider?

My applications will be occasional FS2020, some video editing in Resolve and streaming Steam VR games to my Quest, maybe also running some virtualisation for doing some server testing.

I've said this in a different thread - I would go with the opinions of the professional reviewers on this question. When it comes to opinions form end-users, people don't control variables the same way that reviewers do, so it's less reliable. It should be easy to find comparative reviews on these CPUs but I'd start with Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, and AnandTech.

 

[∀Z‾soʇɐuɐɥ┴]

@zedwunare if you are looking at virtualisation / server testing then go AMD as it has more cores.
Note however AMD isn't for the guy looking for a plug and play solution in most cases.
Out the box it WILL run hot even with a decent cooler like the NH-D15 slapped onto it, and this is purely because of AMD's stock voltages that are stupidly high.

What I would suggest if you are going to be running vm's is use a static OC regardless as VM's don't give a shit about how high your cpu can boost under load, it will always just run at the base speed.
This goes for both Intel and AMD.

As far as rendering goes, I can't give any input on this as it's not something I have any experience with on either platform to compare.

As said above, Intel's 12th gen is around the corner, and it seems like zen3+ isn't too far off either (6000 series Ryzen).

 

[T3CH 1D10T]

Would go check the thread from yesterday just with regards to the new tech coming 12th Gen will need a new PSU and DDR5 ram.. Ryzen 6000 will more than likely also follow suit too.

Carb post

 

[zedwunare]

Thanks everyone and @Moemfie_ZA

I'm quite conflicted around 12th gen. Obviously the newer generation stuff is super appealing but the timelines are uncertain and I expect the price points for medium->high performance DDR5 memory, PCIe 5 NVMe, etc etc. is going to be significantly higher than current gen.

I suppose what I could do is just hold my horses and for the next few months set aside some cash each month in anticipation of an early 2022 build.

BUT, on the flip side a medium->high end 12th gen build I'm guessing is going to be AT LEAST ~20-30% more expensive than a current gen build.

 

[MinimumMaximum]

Thanks everyone and @Moemfie_ZA

I'm quite conflicted around 12th gen. Obviously the newer generation stuff is super appealing but the timelines are uncertain and I expect the price points for medium->high performance DDR5 memory, PCIe 5 NVMe, etc etc. is going to be significantly higher than current gen.

I suppose what I could do is just hold my horses and for the next few months set aside some cash each month in anticipation of an early 2022 build.

BUT, on the flip side a medium->high end 12th gen build I'm guessing is going to be AT LEAST ~20-30% more expensive than a current gen build.

Sure. Another point on waiting for new stuff is the possibility of the current gen price drops.

 

[JollyJamma]

My take is that there will always be something new on the way and the new architecture will be quite a bit more expensive thanks to capacity.

I wouldn’t go for DDR5 until it has matured a little.


I would definitely say that cost is the biggest factor here and if the 5900X does what you need it to do, go for it.

The newer CPUs are going to be very expensive.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

Intel 12th gen doesn't necessarily mean you need DDR5, PCI 5.0 or a new PSU.

The rumors are that only the high end boards will have DDR5, midrange will still be fine with DDR4.
PCIE 5.0 is only on the x16 slot and fully backwards compatible for every currently released 3.0 or 4.0 GPU.

Intel's psu standard isn't taking off so no worry about a new PSU right now.


Id wait. Heard rumours that the i5 (6 big cores, 4 little cores) on Windows 11 is going to be a very nice midrange package that even beats the 5800x in gaming.

 

[Oops!!!]

As with every new architecture release, especially one with such drastic changes. Wait for it to mature and get the bugs ironed out before adopting it.

If the cash is burning a hole in your pocket, wait till the release and buy the previous gen at a discount rate.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

As with every new architecture release, especially one with such drastic changes. Wait for it to mature and get the bugs ironed out before adopting it.

If the cash is burning a hole in your pocket, wait till the release and buy the previous gen at a discount rate.

By the time it's mature, the next best thing will be out.

The next platforms (LGA1700 and AM5) at least ensure you have an upgrade path for another one generation (Intel Raptor Lake) or two (usually what AMD does).

Because Z590 and X570 are end of line now (maybe there will be a 3D cache 5900X/5950X but it's so close to Zen 4 that it's almost irrelevant).

 

[zedwunare]

All good points. I think I'll postpone my decision until LGA1700 is out at the very least.

Then I'll be more informed and have a better sense of costs and performance and I can elect to buy 11th/5000 or 12th gen.

In the mean time I'll keep an eye on all the YouTube channels and publications and live vicariously through them. Heh.