I learnt a lesson in cooling

[iamgigglz]

And I thought I knew everything.

I recently built my first Ryzen system in an Evolv Shift Air case using a Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX board and an H60 AIO for cooling.
The board does not have active cooling on the chipset, but instead has a beefy chunk of aluminium with a heat pipe connecting it to the VRM cooling.
The M.2 SSD also sits under this beefy chunk of aluminium.

I do have an ML140 intake fan next to the board, so it gets at least SOME air flow. Clearly not enough though. I noticed that my SSD was running very warm; mid 60s to 70deg idle, 75deg when gaming and quickly throttling at 80deg when installing big games or big file copies. That aluminium block was almost too hot to touch. Also my VRM temp (I think - so many sensors) was regularly hitting 80deg+.

In the end the only solution that has really worked is to remove that chunky block, and switch back to the stock Wraith Stealth air cooler. SSD temps now max out at 67deg when torture-testing, and those mobo sensors that used to read 80deg+ are now in in the 50s.
Clearly the extra movement of air that the downward-facing CPU fan creates is making a huge difference.

I'm going to re-fit the chunky block of aluminium and see what happens, but this was certainly a lesson in AIO cooling. Don't forget that there's a bunch of stuff on the motherboard that needs cooling, not just the CPU!

Also, nearly new Corsair H60 for sale

 

[Areola Grande]

And I thought I knew everything.

I recently built my first Ryzen system in an Evolv Shift Air case using a Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX board and an H60 AIO for cooling.
The board does not have active cooling on the chipset, but instead has a beefy chunk of aluminium with a heat pipe connecting it to the VRM cooling.
The M.2 SSD also sits under this beefy chunk of aluminium.

I do have an ML140 intake fan next to the board, so it gets at least SOME air flow. Clearly not enough though. I noticed that my SSD was running very warm; mid 60s to 70deg idle, 75deg when gaming and quickly throttling at 80deg when installing big games or big file copies. That aluminium block was almost too hot to touch. Also my VRM temp (I think - so many sensors) was regularly hitting 80deg+.

In the end the only solution that has really worked is to remove that chunky block, and switch back to the stock Wraith Stealth air cooler. SSD temps now max out at 67deg when torture-testing, and those mobo sensors that used to read 80deg+ are now in in the 50s.
Clearly the extra movement of air that the downward-facing CPU fan creates is making a huge difference.

I'm going to re-fit the chunky block of aluminium and see what happens, but this was certainly a lesson in AIO cooling. Don't forget that there's a bunch of stuff on the motherboard that needs cooling, not just the CPU!

Also, nearly new Corsair H60 for sale

How's your case cooling?

 

[SYNERGY]

It's why I went with the
Lian-li TU150W

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pclinkshop.co.za

I could foresee all the crappy cooling with the Evolve Shift.
I hoped the Air would've been better :/

 

[rinners]

It's why I went with the
Lian-li TU150W

Components :: Cases | Fans | Leds :: Chassis :: Lian-li TU150W all blk mITX

Lian-li pc-TU150W all black mini-itx / mini-DTX chassis with top retractable handle + tempered glass side panel No psu use optional SFX psu mini size 203x375x312mm support 190mm long card made in Taiwan hairline brush anodized aluminum 1x usb3 0 type-C + 2x usb 3 0 + audio i/o - 1/0x 3 5 + 1/2 x...

pclinkshop.co.za

I could foresee all the crappy cooling with the Evolve Shift.
I hoped the Air would've been better :/

Nah man, you need one of those cases with the fan on the side panel. Those designers knew what then were doing back then.

 

[rinners]

@iamgigglz

 

[ovisser1]

@iamgigglz

I was about to post exactly this.
link: CRYORIG | A-SERIES

 

[iamgigglz]

How's your case cooling?

Pretty good I reckon - 2 x ML140 intakes. Very noticeable passive exhaust out the top & bottom. GPU stays frosty.

It's why I went with the Lian-li TU150W.
I could foresee all the crappy cooling with the Evolve Shift.
I hoped the Air would've been better :/

The Air is MUCH better, especially for the GPU. No cooling issues there, and the CPU temps are in the 60s while gaming with the stock Wraith Stealth cooler.
Honestly the only issue is air flow over the mobo with an AIO. The glass version of the Shift also really struggled with GPU cooling. That's where the bad rep came from.

I'm keen on replacing the CPU-side panel with a glass one and I'm 99% sure the cooling would not suffer at all.

I was about to post exactly this.
link: CRYORIG | A-SERIES

That would be great but I only have room for 120mm rads.

 

[VPII]

I am sorry for stating this but I am somewhat practical. First of I had an open bench setup but after getting a Corsair H150i for the processor I had to look for something different. Not having a lot of cash I went what some would say cheap but at least it can hold a 360 aio radiator. Unfortunately the top could not hold my Corsait H110 rad for the gpu so I decided off with the side panel and let the rad rest next to the case. The end result 22 to 25c cpu idle temps and 25c gpu idle temps. Cpu a Amd Ryzen 9 3950x and Gpu Rtx 2080 ti. All in all I am happy. Oh vrm temp almost never go beyond 60c while running prime95 small fft.

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[Off-The-Chart]

got to love these ITX guys and their quest for something that even some ATX cases don't achieve



@VPII turn off that damn aircon

 

[VPII]

got to love these ITX guys and their quest for something that even some ATX cases don't achieve



@VPII turn off that damn aircon

No aircon running, sorry.

 

[JollyJamma]

Also, nearly new Corsair H60 for sale

Either zip tie a 140mm fan over the VRM or change the direction of the rear exhaust fan to an inflow and the upward exhaust fan to also be an inflow.

I know you have an ITX setup but you can still add a fan in there.

I got the Phanteks P400 for this very reason - dank airflow over the VRMs so an AIO is easily added without generating extra heat.

 

[Toy Machine]

One thing I saw with a Shift Air as well was to zip tie 40mm fans on the top near the I/O to intake/exhaust air, apparently does wonders for temps in the glass variant.

 

[rinners]

Take the read I/O cover off, Gamers Nexus style.

I had the both the Shift and Shift X briefly that came in bundles, didn't even bother building in them.

Pro tip: also remember not to have your AIO pump as the highest part of the AIO, so that means lying these cases on their side, oh wait wasn't that the GPU "air" section of the Shifty Air... what a terrible case design for AIOs... stick with the air cooler

Also get a Cougar QBX. It's half the price, 1/5th of the weight (don't quote me on that thumbsuck) and better airflow to case volume.

 

[cyrexonline]

HI Everyone I have a Ryzen 9 3900xt and a antec aio but the temps are really high, i have put on new thermal paste but still high temps any suggestions, i found a workaround but i want to keep it at standard spec running standard temps here is the temps and workaround The stress test temps without workaround is 80 degrees to 85 degrees Celsius the stress test with the workaround is Max 65 degrees Celsius The workaround is i use the asus rog strix software to boost the closck speed to 4000mhz without increasing voltage. I think it reduces performance though, any advise or is those 80 temps normal? I have also tried using the in box cooler and it goes to even higher temps and thermal throttles. sometimes. even with the case open.

 

[JollyJamma]

HI Everyone I have a Ryzen 9 3900xt and a antec aio but the temps are really high, i have put on new thermal paste but still high temps any suggestions, i found a workaround but i want to keep it at standard spec running standard temps here is the temps and workaround The stress test temps without workaround is 80 degrees to 85 degrees Celsius the stress test with the workaround is Max 65 degrees Celsius The workaround is i use the asus rog strix software to boost the closck speed to 4000mhz without increasing voltage. I think it reduces performance though, any advise or is those 80 temps normal? I have also tried using the in box cooler and it goes to even higher temps and thermal throttles. sometimes. even with the case open.

Post photos of your rig setup.

 

[Phence]

got to love these ITX guys and their quest for something that even some ATX cases don't achieve

Shhhh let them struggle.