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I’m out. UK, here I come.

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Go over. Find a job (Don't start working)

Come back. Now you have a job offer (apply for work visa)

Boom!

haha, maybe there is something I am missing?
Company cost of the Visa Sponsorship... Company needs to have sponsorship credits. Its stupidly complex
 

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Holy shit balls! That is expensive

Is that during peak travel?

Im assuming you have all the train/subway apps. Also buying the ticket 2 days in advance seemed a lot cheaper
I was wrong, it’s far cheaper than £200 odd pounds to get to London but it’s still nearly £40, which is prohibitively expensive for daily commuting.

Once you start living here though, you have to stop converting everything to Rand.

It’s just pointless because the price is the price and when you’re earning pounds, it’s really not bad at all.

If you’re earning £19 000 per annum, you will be fine but you won’t be able to afford a flat to yourself - you’ll need to rent a furnished room.

Anything in the £40 000 per annum mark and you can basically afford a flat and a nice car, plus go on holidays to europe each month and eat out often.

Basic wage per hour is £8.15, so even that is fine for most people with combined incomes or who live in a cheap area.
 

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Is it even possible for someone to immigrate to anywhere that's better then SA if you don't have a family in said country or by going the ancestry visa route???

I have tried AUS by trying to apply for jobs I think I applied for 500+ jobs and I think I got 3 response back, this was 2 or 3 years ago as I just gave up hope.

I even had two of my friends in Melbourne that were trying to get me in at their companies as we all have the same IT qualifications but still no interest.

If anyone can tell me if it is even possible and if so how with out shelling out thousand and thousands of Rands.
It's possibly but quite costly without any help.

I can get Ancestral Visa to the UK but there are hectic requirements (R90k+/- in your bank account to prove you can support yourself or a sponsor). Then there's the NHI surcharge of £2000.

I'm holding out for a couple months before I decide to take a plunge and move.

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Either you have really nice camera or the weathers not that bad :p
One very nice days. Often cold but sunny at the moment.

It can rain for 3 months straight though.

16 degrees C and above is considered warm here. 10 is cool and 5 is starting to get cold.
 

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Today, it has started to snow.

It’s not heavy but it’s amazing.

I also purchased a car:

Hey, you got a VW Up, which model?

I'm planning to move around May/June next year.
Starting to look into everything.

What are the carbon taxes like and such for owning a vehicle though? Most people say it's quite expensive to own one.

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Today, it has started to snow.

It’s not heavy but it’s amazing.

I also purchased a car:

Snow wtf ? We've seen some low teen numbers here in the Netherlands, but no snow yet ... Weather takes some getting used to but it's not that bad ... homes are well insulated and when indoors it's shorts and t-shirt xD
 

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Snow wtf ? We've seen some low teen numbers here in the Netherlands, but no snow yet ... Weather takes some getting used to but it's not that bad ... homes are well insulated and when indoors it's shorts and t-shirt xD
Wait, you moved overseas as well :surprise:

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Hey, you got a VW Up, which model?

I'm planning to move around May/June next year.
Starting to look into everything.

What are the carbon taxes like and such for owning a vehicle though? Most people say it's quite expensive to own one.

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I got the Move Up because of the following reasons:

The Take up is the base model and comes with very few creature comforts (no air-con and no hands free) yet isn’t far off the price of the move up.

It was a nearly new model with 1400 miles on the clock that cost me £8200, plus an £149 admin fee at the dealer.

The paint was an optional extra added by the initial owner and cost her £570.

Tax was £145, insurance is £400, gap insurance is £105 for 2 years, exchanging my SA license for a UK license is £43, petrol is £1.29 a liter.

Reasons for going for it:

it does 49.5 mpg / 21.05 km per liter, it’s a fun car to drive but slow, it’s small and parking here is tight, insurance is very cheap compared to other cars, it can easily take 2 adults plus luggage and it feels like a bigger car than it actually is.

A more practical car at the same price would be the Kia Picanto 1.25L. Bigger and more powerful.
 

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post rugby celebratory braai with my brother and his GF at their flat in Bristol.

Who said that you can’t braai in the UK? Tag them please.

you may just end up getting some serious flak for saying you had a braai in that Cadac :eek:
 

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Wait, you moved overseas as well :surprise:

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lol been here in the Netherlands for 6 months now - emigrated 3 months ago give or take. Loving it
 

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you may just end up getting some serious flak for saying you had a braai in that Cadac :eek:
I got flak for using briquette charcoal instead of just using wood and waiting 12 hours for coals. At this point, I don't care what I use, so long as it works.
 

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lol been here in the Netherlands for 6 months now - emigrated 3 months ago give or take. Loving it
How's the Netherlands because that's my backup plan.

My only one concern was language barrier potentially

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Reasons for going for it:

it does 49.5 mpg / 21.05 km per liter, it’s a fun car to drive but slow, it’s small and parking here is tight, insurance is very cheap compared to other cars, it can easily take 2 adults plus luggage and it feels like a bigger car than it actually is.

A more practical car at the same price would be the Kia Picanto 1.25L. Bigger and more powerful.
I have had my Move Up for almost 2 years now, its a great little city car, cheap to run and quite comfy, mine even has a sun roof and cruise control.
 

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I have had my Move Up for almost 2 years now, its a great little city car, cheap to run and quite comfy, mine even has a sun roof and cruise control.
There's nothing wrong with the Up in any way and people who judge it for being tiny are missing the point.

DId your Up! also come with a sticker that says "the size of the car is inversely proportional to the size of the drivers penis"?
 

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How's the Netherlands because that's my backup plan.

My only one concern was language barrier potentially

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Well language is the least of your issues tbh ... Netherlands is ranked the best English speaking EU country. There's a few posts on here about the experience, but for the most part all I can say is that ZA has a VERY VERY VERY long way to go.

Pros:
Earning Euros
Clean
Friendly People
Everything is maintained and work
Great Public Transport
Close to the rest of Europe ( Literally an hour from France / Germany etc , UK is a 1 hour flight )
Low interest rates ( some offer 0% interest on the sale of a motor vehicle e.g. )
Minimum wage is around 1600 euros pm
Great Free education System
Socially responsible society
Safe ! Very low crime rate - My kids cycle to school 7km back and forth daily and go to the town centrum by themselves.
Very low unemployment rate ( 3% and those people are living off grants )
up to 500mbit cable to most homes in the NL



Cons:
Cost of living is about 60% more than ZA for groceries and take-outs
Housing is expensive and scarce
Low interest rates - I get 0.015% interest or something ridiculous on my current account, so you have to look at other means of investment.
HIgh Taxes - Top end earners are looking at 51% tax unless you have a 30% ruling, with an already 21% VAT charge.
Minimum wage drives up consumer prices for just about anything.
Weather can get a bit dreary if you'r'e used to sunny South Africa
Cost of owning a vehicle is expensive ( taxation / fuel etc )

There's a bunch more, but this is what I could think of quickly.
 

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Thanks for the updates, it's cool to see how the people who went are doing, makes us that think about it think some long hard thoughts.
 

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