High Temps Ryzen 9 5950X?

[Duck]

Hi guys

Any feedback on this would be much appreciated.

Recently I managed to get a really good deal on a 5950X and upgraded from my R5 2600. Currently, I'm using a Corsair H100 AIO (3 months old) for my cooling and from what I can see it's not really working too well.

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The CORSAIR H100 RGB all-in-one liquid CPU cooler delivers strong, dependable cooling and stunning lighting, with two CORSAIR SP120 RGB ELITE PWM fans, a 240mm radiator, and 29 RGB LEDs.

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On idle I'm seeing between 55-60C and playing most games after some time (1-2 hours) of playing I'm seeing 85-91C. As soon as I run a Cinebench R23 test I see the temperature hit 88-90C to which they would likely reach 91-92C at sustained usage (10min).

The above is after I've set pump & fan speed to 100%, when I take off my tempered glass side panel I see about a 5-8C drop in temp, I've also ensured that AIO has proper mounting pressure as well as repasted with Cooler master gel pro paste (put on a bit more than needed).

My main questions are

Are these temps normal?
Would getting an H150i fix the issue and get me to about 75-80C at peak?
Is there anything else I can try before buying another AIO?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

 

[dainluke]

The Ryzen chips have weird die’s so the mounting is significant. From my testing, the Corsair mount works insanely well for ADL-S, but I assume badly for Ryzen.

The Aorus WF X 360 I have right now used to cool my 5900X very well. I was able to run 3DMark at 1.45V fixed for 4.8GHz all-core and it would only hit like 75c during the physics test while running in the 50s in the GPU sections.

So I think the general rule of thumb is Asetek Gen7 for Ryzen 5000, Corsair for ADL-S, and Arctic just crushes it for both platforms.

 

[iamgigglz]

What case do you have and what is your case fan arrangement? A drop of 8deg when you remove your side panel tells me you might have an air flow issue.

 

[VPII]

Hi guys

Any feedback on this would be much appreciated.

Recently I managed to get a really good deal on a 5950X and upgraded from my R5 2600. Currently, I'm using a Corsair H100 AIO (3 months old) for my cooling and from what I can see it's not really working too well.

Corsair H100 RGB 240mm Closed Loop All-In-One Liquid Cooler | Dreamware Technology | South Africa

The CORSAIR H100 RGB all-in-one liquid CPU cooler delivers strong, dependable cooling and stunning lighting, with two CORSAIR SP120 RGB ELITE PWM fans, a 240mm radiator, and 29 RGB LEDs.

www.dreamwaretech.co.za

On idle I'm seeing between 55-60C and playing most games after some time (1-2 hours) of playing I'm seeing 85-91C. As soon as I run a Cinebench R23 test I see the temperature hit 88-90C to which they would likely reach 91-92C at sustained usage (10min).

The above is after I've set pump & fan speed to 100%, when I take off my tempered glass side panel I see about a 5-8C drop in temp, I've also ensured that AIO has proper mounting pressure as well as repasted with Cooler master gel pro paste (put on a bit more than needed).

My main questions are

Are these temps normal?
Would getting an H150i fix the issue and get me to about 75-80C at peak?
Is there anything else I can try before buying another AIO?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

What you can try and what I have done is to set the vcore to negative offset -0.0875. This dropped my cpu temps by around 8 to 10c

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[Duck]

The Ryzen chips have weird die’s so the mounting is significant. From my testing, the Corsair mount works insanely well for ADL-S, but I assume badly for Ryzen.

The Aorus WF X 360 I have right now used to cool my 5900X very well. I was able to run 3DMark at 1.45V fixed for 4.8GHz all-core and it would only hit like 75c during the physics test while running in the 50s in the GPU sections.

So I think the general rule of thumb is Asetek Gen7 for Ryzen 5000, Corsair for ADL-S, and Arctic just crushes it for both platforms.

I wouldn't mind switching to another cooler if not for the iCue ecosystem I have set up at the moment with Corsair that's controlling all my RGB. Thanks for the input though

 

[Duck]

What case do you have and what is your case fan arrangement? A drop of 8deg when you remove your side panel tells me you might have an air flow issue.

Currently I'm running the stock 120mm exhaust fan at the back and I have the other 2 120s pulling in air in on the front of the case attached to the AIO radiator. I've even resorted to taking off the front panel of the case just to get more airflow too which has improved things to a slight extent XD

 

[VPII]

I wouldn't mind switching to another cooler if not for the iCue ecosystem I have set up at the moment with Corsair that's controlling all my RGB. Thanks for the input though

I'm using a Corsair H150i with a 5950x and load temps barely pass 83c under all core load. Check my previous post for a suggestion.

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[Duck]

What you can try and what I have done is to set the vcore to negative offset -0.0875. This dropped my cpu temps by around 8 to 10c

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This sounds like a plan!

Would this be similar to an undervolt? As currently, I have all cores set to negative 18 via the PBO

 

[VPII]

This sounds like a plan!

Would this be similar to an undervolt? As currently, I have all cores set to negative 18 via the PBO View attachment 61117

Yup but doing it on the vcore setting helps alot. Please let me know if it worked.

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[Duck]

Yup but doing it on the vcore setting helps alot. Please let me know if it worked.

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Just tried now and the thermals look waaaay better thanks!

It will hit about 82.5 starting Cinbench R23 in the beginning but it will then drop to 74-75C whereas previously it was a constant 91-92C from the get-go. Idle now roughly the same but it's currently in the 30s in Cape Town so I'm sure on a normal day it would be lower than it was.

Only downside is that my R23 (23606)pts and CPU-Z benches are a bit lower from what they were.

Will definately play around with vcore and see if I can strike a balance

 

[VPII]

Just tried now and the thermals look waaaay better thanks!

It will hit about 82.5 starting Cinbench R23 in the beginning but it will then drop to 74-75C whereas previously it was a constant 91-92C from the get-go. Idle now roughly the same but it's currently in the 30s in Cape Town so I'm sure on a normal day it would be lower than it was.

Only downside is that my R23 (23606)pts and CPU-Z benches are a bit lower from what they were.

Will definately play around with vcore and see if I can strike a balance

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Thanks for letting me know, so great to know it helped.

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[VPII]

Just tried now and the thermals look waaaay better thanks!

It will hit about 82.5 starting Cinbench R23 in the beginning but it will then drop to 74-75C whereas previously it was a constant 91-92C from the get-go. Idle now roughly the same but it's currently in the 30s in Cape Town so I'm sure on a normal day it would be lower than it was.

Only downside is that my R23 (23606)pts and CPU-Z benches are a bit lower from what they were.

Will definately play around with vcore and see if I can strike a balance

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I do mot think there is anything wrong with Corsair's coolers

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[eyetac]

I get 81 max when hitting a cinebench benchmark with the NH-D15
Idles around 37-45 depending on the day (During Summer with fans barely audible)

Your cinebench score is quite low.. Like PBO is disabled.
Have you enabled PBO?
I've got PBO enabled and a negative offset of 10.

This is probably a very dumb question, but your AIO block doesn't maybe have the plastic film still on the bottom?
Your temps with PBO disabled should not really be going higher than 75 max.

 

[Confucius]

I think you need to check your airflows.

I’ve got 2 5950x and I’ve never seen temps above 75

System 1
Thermal take view 71, 3x 140mm pulling air in at the front. 1 Corsair ml140 inlet at bottom, another extracting at the back and an msi 360 AIO blowing out the top. Case has 2x 3060 mining ethereum. Cpu used to mine raptoreum / plot chia.

System 2
Meshifi case (the small one), Corsair h115 at the front, 2 CM sickleflow 140 exhausts at the top and another 120 at the back. 3060 mining eth and cpu mining / plotting

 

[VPII]

Just tried now and the thermals look waaaay better thanks!

It will hit about 82.5 starting Cinbench R23 in the beginning but it will then drop to 74-75C whereas previously it was a constant 91-92C from the get-go. Idle now roughly the same but it's currently in the 30s in Cape Town so I'm sure on a normal day it would be lower than it was.

Only downside is that my R23 (23606)pts and CPU-Z benches are a bit lower from what they were.

Will definately play around with vcore and see if I can strike a balance

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What @eyetac is saying is true, your score is a little low. Here is mine

Just tried now and the thermals look waaaay better thanks!

It will hit about 82.5 starting Cinbench R23 in the beginning but it will then drop to 74-75C whereas previously it was a constant 91-92C from the get-go. Idle now roughly the same but it's currently in the 30s in Cape Town so I'm sure on a normal day it would be lower than it was.

Only downside is that my R23 (23606)pts and CPU-Z benches are a bit lower from what they were.

Will definately play around with vcore and see if I can strike a balance

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I think @eyetac may have point regarding your result. Here is mine as reference.

 

[VPII]

I think you need to check your airflows.

I’ve got 2 5950x and I’ve never seen temps above 75

System 1
Thermal take view 71, 3x 140mm pulling air in at the front. 1 Corsair ml140 inlet at bottom, another extracting at the back and an msi 360 AIO blowing out the top. Case has 2x 3060 mining ethereum. Cpu used to mine raptoreum / plot chia.

System 2
Meshifi case (the small one), Corsair h115 at the front, 2 CM sickleflow 140 exhausts at the top and another 120 at the back. 3060 mining eth and cpu mining / plotting

YOu are not drilling is with workload if only 75c, unless you on a custom water loop. Check my previous post with screen grabs and mine is pretty solid and cool enough

 

[Confucius]

YOu are not drilling is with workload if only 75c, unless you on a custom water loop. Check my previous post with screen grabs and mine is pretty solid and cool enough

Not really. Don’t game.

Bought it for chia plotting and now it’s just mining.

Will run some benchmarks when I’m bored sometime.

 

[D3TTOL]

The Ryzen chips have weird die’s so the mounting is significant. From my testing, the Corsair mount works insanely well for ADL-S, but I assume badly for Ryzen.

The Aorus WF X 360 I have right now used to cool my 5900X very well. I was able to run 3DMark at 1.45V fixed for 4.8GHz all-core and it would only hit like 75c during the physics test while running in the 50s in the GPU sections.

So I think the general rule of thumb is Asetek Gen7 for Ryzen 5000, Corsair for ADL-S, and Arctic just crushes it for both platforms.

Um...
Can you dumb that down a bit for me?

What's Asetek?, Arctic?
Brands of AOIs?

 

[Duck]

I get 81 max when hitting a cinebench benchmark with the NH-D15
Idles around 37-45 depending on the day (During Summer with fans barely audible)

Your cinebench score is quite low.. Like PBO is disabled.
Have you enabled PBO?
I've got PBO enabled and a negative offset of 10.

This is probably a very dumb question, but your AIO block doesn't maybe have the plastic film still on the bottom?
Your temps with PBO disabled should not really be going higher than 75 max.

Currently running PBO on with negative 16 offset

I notice that my voltages are way high when it's not being utilized (as you can see from the attached), they are just on auto at the moment

And lol, I can see why you'd think the plastic would be still on but it is indeed off

Also that Cinebench score was with vcore set to 0.0875 as @VPII suggested which fixed therms but dropped the performance.

Usually it's around 27000 - 28200pts or so

 

[dainluke]

Um...
Can you dumb that down a bit for me?

What's Asetek?, Arctic?
Brands of AOIs?

Asetek make the AIO components for a lot of brands. They're like a wholesale manufacturer that other AIBs put their branding over and maybe make some minor (they have to be minor) adjustments to the cooling system. Arctic are a German manufacturer (I think) who make these really good value-for-money high performance AIOs that don't have unnecessary BS. Unfortunately they aren't brought in locally.

 

[Duck]

I think you need to check your airflows.

I’ve got 2 5950x and I’ve never seen temps above 75

System 1
Thermal take view 71, 3x 140mm pulling air in at the front. 1 Corsair ml140 inlet at bottom, another extracting at the back and an msi 360 AIO blowing out the top. Case has 2x 3060 mining ethereum. Cpu used to mine raptoreum / plot chia.

System 2
Meshifi case (the small one), Corsair h115 at the front, 2 CM sickleflow 140 exhausts at the top and another 120 at the back. 3060 mining eth and cpu mining / plotting

I suspect this could be an issue too

Reckon just brute-forcing it with the 360mm AIO should do the trick?

 

[eyetac]

Asetek makes all the AIO's that get rebranded by the third party guys (Asus, Corsair etc)

Arctic is a brand that is renowned at making excellent cooling products.. Not sure if they use Asetek as the base though. Have a feeling they build their own AIO's from the ground up.

 

[Aokiji]

just check on your pipes if one side is quite hot compared to the otherside , quite common for these corsair coolers to develop some blockage on the copper core. mine had the same problem until i did the painstakingly move to refill it and clean . works great again

 

[eyetac]

Currently running PBO on with negative 16 offset

I notice that my voltages are way high when it's not being utilized (as you can see from the attached), they are just on auto at the moment

And lol, I can see why you'd think the plastic would be still on but it is indeed off

Also that Cinebench score was with vcore set to 0.0875 as @VPII suggested which fixed therms but dropped the performance.

Usually it's around 27000 - 28200pts or so


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Here's a suggestion that once worked for me.
My temps and benchmarks were a little off once from tinkering too much.
I reset the bios to stock and then started applying my settings that I like.
Been wonderful since.


Maybe a thought.

That AIO should keep your cpu cool, bro. I don't think a 360 will fix whatever is going on there. If anything, get some more airflow into the case. Maybe put the RAD at the top of the case and get 3 120mm fans at the front for intake.

 

[Duck]

just check on your pipes if one side is quite hot compared to the otherside , quite common for these corsair coolers to develop some blockage on the copper core. mine had the same problem until i did the painstakingly move to refill it and clean . works great again

WIll give this a crack too thanks

 

[Duck]

Here's a suggestion that once worked for me.
My temps and benchmarks were a little off once from tinkering too much.
I reset the bios to stock and then started applying my settings that I like.
Been wonderful since.


Maybe a thought.

That AIO should keep your cpu cool, bro. I don't think a 360 will fix whatever is going on there. If anything, get some more airflow into the case. Maybe put the RAD at the top of the case and get 3 120mm fans at the front for intake.

I've reset to defaults quite a few times and even bone stock (besides XMP profile) its toasty

 

[eyetac]

I've reset to defaults quite a few times and even bone stock (besides XMP profile) its toasty

Very Bizarre, bud.

And the pump speed is set to PWM?

 

[eyetac]

I've reset to defaults quite a few times and even bone stock (besides XMP profile) its toasty

Have you removed the block, cleaned all the thermal grease, reapplied and reseated?

 

[Duck]

Very Bizarre, bud.

And the pump speed is set to PWM?

AIO only connects to CPU_FAN header on my board and in the BIOS I have that set to the highest speed it can go

 

[Duck]

Have you removed the block, cleaned all the thermal grease, reapplied and reseated?

Yup

Used quite a generous amount of Cooler master paste when reseating. Also got all the mountings sufficiently torqued