Game of Thrones Season 8

[Presler]

While I don't agree with the delivery (Way too rushed), I think it's been a pretty decent season.

I get why people are mad/pissed about how things are going but this was always going to be the way it was going to end.
I'm not going into detail, but I'm 100% sure that GoT doesn't have a normal happy ending, instead it has multiple endings for different characters.

^^This.

People are mostly pissed because it's not going the way they wanted it to go, well well, it's GoT, it won't. I'm quite sure that they had more than enough footage for 10 x 1 hour episodes, so yes, it feels squashed/rushed, but however you look at it, this cookie was never going to crumble any other way. Plus, while I also feel D&D could have done better, I'm quite sure they also have red tape to deal with from HBO and GRRM that we don't see.

I see people flipping their lids for prophecies not playing out, well HELLO you dumbass, this ain't the books, the story deviated from Season 1. GRRM said a long time ago the books and the show will end up with the same ending but take different routes to get there.

Spoiler

As for Daenarys, I feel she's more Aegon the Conqueror than Mad King. I've said to someone today that I don't think she went all nuts on Kings Landing because she's now Mad Queen, but rather that she sat there on that wall, looked at the Red Keep and everything else around and realized she's not going to have it now that Jon/Aegon is Heir to it all and the secret is out, and decided to burn it all out of frustration.

 

[BLaaR]

So , Arya assassinates Danny, then skins her face, walks right up to the dragon, and kills it.

 

[Cookie]

So , Arya assassinates Danny, then skins her face, walks right up to the dragon, and kills it.

PERDY sure Drogon has a stronger sense of his mother than just face recognition LOL. Arnt they supposed to have some sort of unspoken bond which is why he always knows what she wants to do

 

[BLaaR]

PERDY sure Drogon has a stronger sense of his mother than just face recognition LOL. Arnt they supposed to have some sort of unspoken bond which is why he always knows what she wants to do

Nee man. Its just a plot hole. Not a biggy.

 

[Cookie]

Nee man. Its just a plot hole. Not a biggy.

Maybe Arya can use the face of one of the dead dragons? Seems legit

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

Maybe Arya can use the face of one of the dead dragons? Seems legit

I think Arya is done. She's just gonna go patch things up with Gendry now.

 

[Cookie]

I think Arya is done. She's just gonna go patch things up with Gendry now.

How sad. She could've died in the building while killing cersei..... That would have been quite epic.

From the beginning she was set on her list and getting revenge and when she gets the opportunity she runs away

Episode 4 - I am not a lady. Going to kill Cersei
Episode 5 - Runs away from the kill to go back to Gendry to be a lady?
Episode 5 - Daenerys has just been added to her list. This could get interesting

 

[BLaaR]

I think Arya is done. She's just gonna go patch things up with Gendry now.

Haar needle intrade vir syne lol

 

[BLaaR]

Please don't make it another Sopranos ending.

The not knowing , having to guess endings suck.

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

How sad. She could've died in the building while killing cersei..... That would have been quite epic.

From the beginning she was set on her list and getting revenge and when she gets the opportunity she runs away

Episode 4 - I am not a lady. Going to kill Cersei
Episode 5 - Runs away from the kill to go back to Gendry to be a lady?
Episode 5 - Daenerys has just been added to her list. This could get interesting

But remember in the Winterfell ep the writers said her knocking her head made her lose her OP powers. And in this ep she got hit like 500 times so at this point she should be less skilled than the little girl that first encountered Syrio.

 

[Cookie]

the writers said her knocking her head made her lose her OP powers.

To be honest I didn't watch the after video with the writers. I thought it may ruin the experience listening to their jibber jabber.
She lost her powers?.... ugh.....

What is a better ending for a character,

a) Losing their powers and going home to sulk
b) Dying using their powers in an epic battle


I feel like this entire season was almost like they had NO script and they told the actors to just say and do whatever they like and hoped for the best.
(This probably would've been a better story line though)

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

To be honest I didn't watch the after video with the writers. I thought it may ruin the experience listening to their jibber jabber.
She lost her powers?.... ugh.....

What is a better ending for a character,

a) Losing their powers and going home to sulk
b) Dying using their powers in an epic battle


I feel like this entire season was almost like they had NO script and they told the actors to just say and do whatever they like and hoped for the best.
(This probably would've been a better story line though)

To be fair they only say that for the Winterfell episode. I haven't watched the others. But when she hits her head in the staircase after mowing through all the wights they said that was supposed to make her lose her fighting prowess. Which lead to that filler library sequence and the trailer'd chase through half of Winterfell.

So if they keep their logic going for this ep she should currently have all the fighting prowess of a toddler.

Then again she was able to mount her unicorn so I guess they aren't interested in doing that again. You're probably right about the list (thanks to those two getting charred).

 

[Cookie]

To be fair they only say that for the Winterfell episode. I haven't watched the others. But when she hits her head in the staircase after mowing through all the wights they said that was supposed to make her lose her fighting prowess. Which lead to that filler library sequence and the trailer'd chase through half of Winterfell.

So if they keep their logic going for this ep she should currently have all the fighting prowess of a toddler.

Then again she was able to mount her unicorn so I guess they aren't interested in doing that again. You're probably right about the list (thanks to those two getting charred).

She also managed to kill a magical being (The Night King) with "no powers" 🤷‍♂️ Its all backwards.

Most people are annoyed the story didn't go the way they wanted it to end.

Its not about that for me, its about the fact all of a sudden every character is behaving differently. All of them.

lol that unicorn came out of nowhere. Some people say the horse was actually Bran warg'ing.

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

She also managed to kill a magical being (The Night King) with "no powers" 🤷‍♂️ Its all backwards.

Most people are annoyed the story didn't go the way they wanted it to end.

Its not about that for me, its about the fact all of a sudden every character is behaving differently. All of them.

lol that unicorn came out of nowhere. Some people say the horse was actually Bran warg'ing.

She regained them after Melisandre pointed out the eyes she had to shut (even though she had been shutting blue eyes all episode long).

I'm not really annoyed with this episode though. I didn't have any real expectations. I just wish it wouldn't have been quite so lopsided. (and it could have also done without the unicorn)

So far it's 2>1>5>4>3 this season.

 

[DeusExMachina]

The only thing I enjoyed about episode 5 was seeing Drogon wrecking everything in it's path. No Unsullied or Dothraki required, not even John Snow... He still knows nothing about Daenerys

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

The only thing I enjoyed about episode 5 was seeing Drogon wrecking everything in it's path. No Unsullied or Dothraki required, not even John Snow... He still knows nothing about Daenerys

Nice how the Dothraki and Unsullied also mysteriously multiplied between episodes 3 and 4 and then 5.

 

[Reavs]

 

[Stefan9]

The terrible writing this season just keeps going. So episode 4 euron can hit each and every shot vs rhaegal but now 100's of shots can't touch drogon...

Arya stark can't be killed even everyone her dies in atleast instances , yeah right.

Dany may go mad but no way like this. Absolute bs writing.

Cersei will not die by a rock falling on her in the true version. There will be bloodshed.

Absolute dreadful how euron again magically just washes up on the beach at the exact same time jaime arrives there..

Season 7 and 8 are disasters.

 

[BLaaR]

Absolute dreadful how euron again magically just washes up on the beach at the exact same time jaime arrives there..

The I killed the King Slayer while staring at the camera.............like. Huh. LoL

 

[Pansyfaust]

^^This.

People are mostly pissed because it's not going the way they wanted it to go, well well, it's GoT, it won't. I'm quite sure that they had more than enough footage for 10 x 1 hour episodes, so yes, it feels squashed/rushed, but however you look at it, this cookie was never going to crumble any other way. Plus, while I also feel D&D could have done better, I'm quite sure they also have red tape to deal with from HBO and GRRM that we don't see.

I see people flipping their lids for prophecies not playing out, well HELLO you dumbass, this ain't the books, the story deviated from Season 1. GRRM said a long time ago the books and the show will end up with the same ending but take different routes to get there.

Spoiler

As for Daenarys, I feel she's more Aegon the Conqueror than Mad King. I've said to someone today that I don't think she went all nuts on Kings Landing because she's now Mad Queen, but rather that she sat there on that wall, looked at the Red Keep and everything else around and realized she's not going to have it now that Jon/Aegon is Heir to it all and the secret is out, and decided to burn it all out of frustration.

Listen, and I say this as a fan of the books and for most of the series: you can't take a show and make it into something it's not in the final season. As much as there is lovely eye-candy and flashy fire burning up things(the directors, cinematographers, lighting etc etc, all fucking amazing) but the way the showrunners have essentially butchered the season in terms of writing is probably one for the history books. You cannot get around the stupendously bad writing and egregious out of character shit that goes down. Jon has become side character and a "yes my queen" character, Cersei has maybe spoken a page of dialogue this whole season, Tyrion is now the stupidest person in the show. Everything that built this show up into something timeless has now been pushed aside for battles and shock value with little lasting impact.

It's just overall bad television. If this was the style they used in the first season to set the tone, this show would have lasted 3-4 seasons, tops.

Take a gander around; people be pissed, and it's simply because we were sold a show for so many seasons, and although the showrunners ran out of book material back in season 5 essentially, they still managed to attempt the keep the writing somewhat grounded in "in-line" with how the show had done things in the prior seasons. But this shit, this shit is just gawd damn awful with the writers seemingly giving up on stringing together a coherent story....AND HBO GAVE THEM 10 EPISODES TO DO THIS SEASON, but those wankers said they only needed 6. Just goes to show why the season is probably the worst one: they wanted to dash to the finish line.

Also, something to add on the way this stuff ends. It's not even the deviation from the books that's a problem, I'd rather have this story tell its own to get to the same ending, and the books do something different that only a book can deliver. But don't give me a piss poor slap dash run to the finish and call it a "good job"

/rant

 

[Reavs]

I've read a rumor that HBO gave them 2 more seasons to finish the story. I can imagine these okes getting bored with their new Star Wars Trilogy half way through.

 

[Stefan9]

HBO were willing to give them 10 seasons of 10 episodes each and the resources they needed. Dumb and Dumber declined. They are off to finish Johnson demolish job on star wars...

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

It isn't even the season length though that's problem. It's decisions within the episodes. With small little dialogue and scene tweaks here and there it could all still work. It wouldn't be fantastic no, and probably still a little disappointing, but it'd be passable and nowhere near the rage fest they've currently created.

 

[Gh0zt_UnKn0wN]

They rushed it way too quickly, throwing logic out the window as well, I like how the story is but the way they got to that story in this season really left me bitter.

 

[Spectaitor]

It isn't even the season length though that's problem. It's decisions within the episodes. With small little dialogue and scene tweaks here and there it could all still work. It wouldn't be fantastic no, and probably still a little disappointing, but it'd be passable and nowhere near the rage fest they've currently created.

It is exactly the season length. If they had more time then maybe they could fluff up the events and have it make sense. Instead they are trying their hardest to wrap things up as quickly as possible.

Unfortunately their brains just think "Most exciting season ever - so much change - edge of your seat action" When in reality it comes off rushed with more holes in it than John Snow.

 

[Valheru]

Unfortunately their brains just think "Most exciting season ever - so much change - edge of your seat action" When in reality it comes off rushed with more holes in it than John Snow.

Seems like more than just that. Add some "Absence of George RR Martin" and crap editing/cutting and the unfolding story is relayed in a very frustrating and confusing way. Sure they do seem to want to get it over with which I can understand, but there appears to be more than just that at play here.

 

[Spectaitor]

Seems like more than just that. Add some "Absence of George RR Martin" and crap editing/cutting and the unfolding story is relayed in a very frustrating and confusing way. Sure they do seem to want to get it over with which I can understand, but there appears to be more than just that at play here.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are rushing it because they have got no idea what the hell to do next lol.

 

[Valheru]

I wouldn't be surprised if they are rushing it because they have got no idea what the hell to do next lol.

They are going from one fanboy infused series to the chief fanboy movie franchise. We must outrage or something!

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

It is exactly the season length. If they had more time then maybe they could fluff up the events and have it make sense. Instead they are trying their hardest to wrap things up as quickly as possible.

Unfortunately their brains just think "Most exciting season ever - so much change - edge of your seat action" When in reality it comes off rushed with more holes in it than John Snow.

No It's more than that. With some slight restructuring of what they've given us, an extra dialogue line here or there in the long silences maybe, and it could all be so much better. Still disappointing but a hell of a lot better.

They definitely didn't need more episodes, there's already tons of padding.

For example Angry Joe was talking about someone recutting Rhaegal's death. First Drogon and Rhaegal dive bomb the ships, all seems good, then suddenly the ballistae (please stop calling them scorpions) are revealed and Rhaegal goes down. Same short running length and yet soooo much better.

All it needs is some slight tuning and it goes from "WTF is this shit?!!" to "Well that isn't what I was hoping for, but not bad".

All I'm saying is even with the exact same running length, and the same major plot points, they could have done much better.

 

[Spectaitor]

No It's more than that. With some slight restructuring of what they've given us, an extra dialogue line here or there in the long silences maybe, and it could all be so much better. Still disappointing but a hell of a lot better.

They definitely didn't need more episodes, there's already tons of padding.

For example Angry Joe was talking about someone recutting Rhaegal's death. First Drogon and Rhaegal dive bomb the ships, all seems good, then suddenly the ballistae (please stop calling them scorpions) are revealed and Rhaegal goes down. Same short running length and yet soooo much better.

All it needs is some slight tuning and it goes from "WTF is this shit?!!" to "Well that isn't what I was hoping for, but not bad".

All I'm saying is even with the exact same running length, and the same major plot points, they could have done much better.

If you can, try remember back to season 1/2/3/4/5 and compare the 'padding'. That's what game of thrones is. If they were to carry on the legacy of game of thrones then they definitely needed a shit load more padding.