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I currently have a Dell 2717 (27") with FreeSync. The monitor has a 75Hz refresh rate. But I can get a Gigabyte GTX1660S GPU for a good price and it would be a shame to miss the opportunity to upgrade to a better GPU. My concern is will the G-Sync device work with my FreeSync monitor. If it works, will I experience tearing that I can't solve? Or will it be fine with the 75Hz refresh where I won't see or experience any tearing? Can I modify the GPU settings to match the monitor (despite the different syncing technologies)?
 
Freesync on NVIDIA is called GSync Compatible mode.

I'm assuming your monitor is the SE2717H.
That monitor is not officially listed/tested by NVIDIA to be GSync Compatible.

However, you can manually enable the mode in the NV Control panel but there's no guarantee you won't experience any issues like blanking/frameskips/flicker etc.

If you can't find it on the NVIDIA list, then look for other reviews or users saying they enabled it with no issues, else it's a huge gamble.
 
Freesync on NVIDIA is called GSync Compatible mode.

I'm assuming your monitor is the SE2717H.
That monitor is not officially listed/tested by NVIDIA to be GSync Compatible.

However, you can manually enable the mode in the NV Control panel but there's no guarantee you won't experience any issues like blanking/frameskips/flicker etc.

If you can't find it on the NVIDIA list, then look for other reviews or users saying they enabled it with no issues, else it's a huge gamble.
it works!
 
Freesync on NVIDIA is called GSync Compatible mode.

I'm assuming your monitor is the SE2717H.
That monitor is not officially listed/tested by NVIDIA to be GSync Compatible.

However, you can manually enable the mode in the NV Control panel but there's no guarantee you won't experience any issues like blanking/frameskips/flicker etc.

If you can't find it on the NVIDIA list, then look for other reviews or users saying they enabled it with no issues, else it's a huge gamble.
Thanks a lot. Looks like I'll have to do some more YouTubing.
 
Thanks a lot. Looks like I'll have to do some more YouTubing.
I've been doing a little more research and thinking about my little predicament. But I need some more advice to either confirm or dispute my theory. It is indeed the Dell SE2717H, @Nyt Ryda. The monitor runs at a max of 75Hz. So, that equates to 75fps. The GTX1660x does more than 75fps in the games my son's interested in playing (Battlefield, MW, CS:GO, Smite, DOTA, etc.). But I suppose that in gaming I wouldn't be getting a true 75fps. If I reduce the card's fps output to 75fps, will there still be tearing, or will there be some manually implemented synchronising.
Please forgive me lack of experience here. My son plays PS4 at the moment and so fps isn't a problem with my current monitor. But as we all know, PC gaming is a different world. I don't want to go to the expense of buying a G-Sync compatible monitor a few months away because my son's complaining about the monitor.
@Senshi can you also give me some advice here?
 
I've been doing a little more research and thinking about my little predicament. But I need some more advice to either confirm or dispute my theory. It is indeed the Dell SE2717H, @Nyt Ryda. The monitor runs at a max of 75Hz. So, that equates to 75fps. The GTX1660x does more than 75fps in the games my son's interested in playing (Battlefield, MW, CS:GO, Smite, DOTA, etc.). But I suppose that in gaming I wouldn't be getting a true 75fps. If I reduce the card's fps output to 75fps, will there still be tearing, or will there be some manually implemented synchronising.
Please forgive me lack of experience here. My son plays PS4 at the moment and so fps isn't a problem with my current monitor. But as we all know, PC gaming is a different world. I don't want to go to the expense of buying a G-Sync compatible monitor a few months away because my son's complaining about the monitor.
@Senshi can you also give me some advice here?
Typically you'd want to cap the FPS to just under the refresh rate of the monitor, this way it will always be in within the VRR range, and Gsync can do its thing. There will be no tearing then. If the FPS exceeds the refresh rate you may still get tearing.
 
I've been doing a little more research and thinking about my little predicament. But I need some more advice to either confirm or dispute my theory. It is indeed the Dell SE2717H, @Nyt Ryda. The monitor runs at a max of 75Hz. So, that equates to 75fps. The GTX1660x does more than 75fps in the games my son's interested in playing (Battlefield, MW, CS:GO, Smite, DOTA, etc.). But I suppose that in gaming I wouldn't be getting a true 75fps. If I reduce the card's fps output to 75fps, will there still be tearing, or will there be some manually implemented synchronising.
Please forgive me lack of experience here. My son plays PS4 at the moment and so fps isn't a problem with my current monitor. But as we all know, PC gaming is a different world. I don't want to go to the expense of buying a G-Sync compatible monitor a few months away because my son's complaining about the monitor.
@Senshi can you also give me some advice here?

The recommended setup for Freesync or Gsync compatible is setting an FPS limit of 3 fps less than the highest hertz (eg. 72 fps limit for 75 hz) and enabling Vsync. This is the way I use mine and I have not seen tearing in months.

Before this, I used to just use adaptive VSync in the NVIDIA control panel on a 1080p 60hz monitor that had no Freesync and it ran smoothly in gameplay since I was at the 60 fps limit most of the time. However after using Gsync Compatible for months, I can't go back. Previously I used to see the 30fps cutscenes in certain games tear sometimes, that never happens anymore.

What is the current AMD card that you are using ?
 
The recommended setup for Freesync or Gsync compatible is setting an FPS limit of 3 fps less than the highest hertz (eg. 72 fps limit for 75 hz) and enabling Vsync. This is the way I use mine and I have not seen tearing in months.

Before this, I used to just use adaptive VSync in the NVIDIA control panel on a 1080p 60hz monitor that had no Freesync and it ran smoothly in gameplay since I was at the 60 fps limit most of the time. However after using Gsync Compatible for months, I can't go back. Previously I used to see the 30fps cutscenes in certain games tear sometimes, that never happens anymore.

What is the current AMD card that you are using ?
Thanks @Nyt Ryda . This is a new build for my son. But I can get a 1660s for a very good price and it seems to outperform the other cards in its class (Radeon RX580 8GB and even the RX5500). So, it would be a shame to pass on the opportunity. But I need to know if it's a good decision or not. I don't want a frustrated 17 year old on my hands because the technology doesn't work and my budget doesn't allow me to buy a new (compatible?) monitor.
 
No, Vsync should be disabled if you're using a VRR capable monitor.

It's debatable.

If you absolutely don't want any tearing, GSync/Freesync + FPS limit (max Hz - 3) + Control Panel VSync On is the way to go.
This is what Blurbusters suggests and I follow their advice : G-SYNC 101: Optimal G-SYNC Settings & Conclusion | Blur Busters

In your previous post you note that "If the FPS exceeds the refresh rate you may still get tearing" - this is what happens when you disable VSync for slightly less input lag. The input lag with VSync On vs Off while using GSync/Freesync is not noticeable at 144Hz (2ms difference vs VSync off), but it might be at lower Hz like 75Hz, as we can see here at 60hz there is a 8ms advantage : G-SYNC 101: G-SYNC vs. V-SYNC OFF | Blur Busters

I guess it depends on if you want no tearing or slightly less input lag but if you're competitively gaming then there's no point in Freesync at all as you would usually be using low settings for over 100FPS (well outside the Freesync range) with no limits or Vsync for the least input lag.

But I still can't find any reviews or evidence that the SE2717H can enable GSync Compatible mode without any issues, @tbin47 says it works - do you have the monitor ? Did you verify that G-Sync Compatible runs correctly by using the Blurbustor monitor tools and checking that there are no frameskips ?
 
It's debatable.

If you absolutely don't want any tearing, GSync/Freesync + FPS limit (max Hz - 3) + Control Panel VSync On is the way to go.
This is what Blurbusters suggests and I follow their advice : G-SYNC 101: Optimal G-SYNC Settings & Conclusion | Blur Busters

In your previous post you note that "If the FPS exceeds the refresh rate you may still get tearing" - this is what happens when you disable VSync for slightly less input lag. The input lag with VSync On vs Off while using GSync/Freesync is not noticeable at 144Hz (2ms difference vs VSync off), but it might be at lower Hz like 75Hz, as we can see here at 60hz there is a 9ms advantage : G-SYNC 101: G-SYNC vs. V-SYNC OFF | Blur Busters

I guess it depends on if you want tearing or slightly less input lag but if you're competitively gaming then there's no point in Freesync at all as you would usually be using low settings for over 100FPS (well outside the Freesync range) with no limits or Vsync for the least input lag.

But I still can't find any reviews or evidence that the SE2717H can enable GSync Compatible mode without any issues, @tbin47 says it works - do you have the monitor ? Did you verify that G-Sync Compatible runs correctly by using the Blurbustor monitor tools and checking that there are no frameskips ?
no, I just have faith :whistle:
 
The recommended setup for Freesync or Gsync compatible is setting an FPS limit of 3 fps less than the highest hertz (eg. 72 fps limit for 75 hz) and enabling Vsync. This is the way I use mine and I have not seen tearing in months.

Before this, I used to just use adaptive VSync in the NVIDIA control panel on a 1080p 60hz monitor that had no Freesync and it ran smoothly in gameplay since I was at the 60 fps limit most of the time. However after using Gsync Compatible for months, I can't go back. Previously I used to see the 30fps cutscenes in certain games tear sometimes, that never happens anymore.

What is the current AMD card that you are using ?
I'm not using any card. This is a new build with a good deal on a gtx1660s. But my concern is my FreeSync monitor and tearing. But I've bought all the stuff now and will be building the PC tomorrow. And then I'll start learning, I suppose. I'll post my findings on this thread. Thanks to everybody for your advice.
 
It's debatable.

If you absolutely don't want any tearing, GSync/Freesync + FPS limit (max Hz - 3) + Control Panel VSync On is the way to go.
This is what Blurbusters suggests and I follow their advice : G-SYNC 101: Optimal G-SYNC Settings & Conclusion | Blur Busters

In your previous post you note that "If the FPS exceeds the refresh rate you may still get tearing" - this is what happens when you disable VSync for slightly less input lag. The input lag with VSync On vs Off while using GSync/Freesync is not noticeable at 144Hz (2ms difference vs VSync off), but it might be at lower Hz like 75Hz, as we can see here at 60hz there is a 8ms advantage : G-SYNC 101: G-SYNC vs. V-SYNC OFF | Blur Busters

I guess it depends on if you want no tearing or slightly less input lag but if you're competitively gaming then there's no point in Freesync at all as you would usually be using low settings for over 100FPS (well outside the Freesync range) with no limits or Vsync for the least input lag.

But I still can't find any reviews or evidence that the SE2717H can enable GSync Compatible mode without any issues, @tbin47 says it works - do you have the monitor ? Did you verify that G-Sync Compatible runs correctly by using the Blurbustor monitor tools and checking that there are no frameskips ?
I've bought the PC with a GTX 1660 Super. So, far so good with just the default settings with the Dell 2717 monitor. But I haven't had much chance to do any real testing yet. As soon as I've managed to tear the PC away from my son, I'll try a few things and post my experience on this forum.
Thanks to all for your great input.
 
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