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[Discussion] Roids/PED's/SARMS (any of the others) and everything that surrounds them

@Nerozki - "definition" has nothing to do with the PED you are using.

You can be using Test prop, Winstrol and Anavar (which will generally be used on a cutting cycle) and consume 3000 calories more than your daily expenditure and you'll become the balloon you are referring to.
no, if you use dbol alone with no test you will become baloon due to water retention due to estrogen levels becoming to much if you eat more calories then you burn you just become Fat not balloon, dont talk to me Pal I am not your friend guy
 
That is a big problem, applies to recreational use also.

I have heard horror stories of 20 year olds having screwed up kidneys/etc from taking roids on recommendation of coaches (Rugby seems like a big culprit).

Kidney transplant lists in this country are so long, it is most likely a death sentence.
Sadly lost a friend this year to kidney failure. He was on the waiting list for so long that he passed away after he finally got the transplant
 
Lol I think we have met different types of "meatheads". And yes I have seen medical doctors shaped like the "hulk". Just because that person is a doctor doesn't mean they don't take the things that they tell you is bad. Its like doctors who smoke.

And top performance at work doesn't equal success. You can be a top performer and have an average job. While the meathead has the leadership role you have to report to.
Exception <> Rule though
 
no, if you use dbol alone with no test you will become baloon due to water retention due to estrogen levels becoming to much if you eat more calories then you burn you just become Fat not balloon, dont talk to me Pal I am not your friend guy
"no, if you use dbol alone with no test" - Not sure what you mean here?
 
"no, if you use dbol alone with no test" - Not sure what you mean here?
If you don't know what he's saying you probably shouldn't be considering anything that might be a PED.
But he's taking about taking test supp to ward off the issues encountered with dbol (and most other supps) that results in higher estrogen levels.
 
"no, if you use dbol alone with no test" - Not sure what you mean here?
sorry bro roid rage got me acting all crazy :ROFLMAO:

Just kidding bud please don't take me to seriously

basically what i meant was, if you only use dianabol alone with no testosterone(TEST CYP,TEST E,TEST PROP) etc. booster you will end up getting water retention as your estrogen levels will increase but your testosterone levels stay the same or actually decrease.

Same as using nandrolone you need a test booster for most steroids out there on the market, Best roid to use in the long run when your lets say over 40 is just to run a pure TEST E cycle and at low dosages lets say 200mg per week then you should not get as many or any negative side effects as combining shit like dbol(dbol is the devils drug) Hate that stuff when i was 17 years old I was told to take dbol from our rugby coach luckily had a friend in the body building industry and he said it was a big NONO.

@Byakugan if you EVER want to take Oral Drugs remember their harder on kidneys and liver than injectables, If you ever consider using anything and you prefer orals use ( Turinabol ) much more expensive but much better(safer) drug for definition and size. I would definitly still add a Test E base as its a weekly injectable and not EOD.

I would not recommend anyone to use roids its not good for you even if some people say its fine if you use it safely. (its not) I've got a lot of friends in the industry most of them suffering from some sort of problem, heart issues,kidney issues etc. And just google for yourself how many body builders die from it (YES THEY USE IT EXCESSIVELY). Even Rich Piana said he would have preferred not to use it and well he dead now...
 
There is no right and wrong here. Each person is entitled to do what they want, no matter the justification. If you do decide to go on gear :
You will always have side effects, that's just the name of the game. If you do a lot of research to empower yourself to do it as safely as possible, it goes a long way. There is also a very big difference in how "clean" gear can be. The label on the bottle does not mean much as there are often knock-offs. Find a reputable supplier.
A low dosage cycle with a good PCT plan in place is a great way to minimize the side effects and can still net you good results. PEDs do not need to be taken in crazy quantities. Oral PEDs take a very heavy toll on the kidneys and are not worth the minimal gains you get out of them in my opinion, your mileage may vary.
I've seen guys who have been on heavy gear for decades without serious long term issues. Seen guys die in their twenties from a combination of heavy gear and too fast paced lifestyles. Seen guys who get crazy "roid rage" and seen guys who are not affected by it at all. If you want to try it be responsible about it as far as you can, and keep in mind it might bite you in the ass.
 
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There is no right and wrong here. Each person is entitled to do what they want, no matter the justification. If you do decide to go on gear :
You will always have side effects, that's just the name of the game. If you do a lot of research to empower yourself to do it as safely as possible, it goes a long way. There is also a very big difference in how "clean" gear can be. The label on the bottle does not mean much as there are often knock-offs. Find a reputable supplier.
A low dosage cycle with a good PCT plan in place is a great way to minimize the side effects and can still net you good results. PEDs do not need to be taken in crazy quantities. Oral PEDs take a very heavy toll on the kidneys and are not worth the minimal gains you get out of them in my experience, your mileage may very.
I've seen guys who have been on heavy gear for decades without serious long term issues. Seen guys die in their twenties from a combination of heavy gear and too fast paced lifestyles. Seen guys who get crazy "roid rage" and seen guys who are not affected by it at all. If you want to try it be responsible about it as far as you can, and keep in mind it might bite you in the ass.
Good points here - sounds a bit like you are talking from experience?
 
There is no right and wrong here. Each person is entitled to do what they want, no matter the justification. If you do decide to go on gear :
You will always have side effects, that's just the name of the game. If you do a lot of research to empower yourself to do it as safely as possible, it goes a long way. There is also a very big difference in how "clean" gear can be. The label on the bottle does not mean much as there are often knock-offs. Find a reputable supplier.
A low dosage cycle with a good PCT plan in place is a great way to minimize the side effects and can still net you good results. PEDs do not need to be taken in crazy quantities. Oral PEDs take a very heavy toll on the kidneys and are not worth the minimal gains you get out of them in my experience, your mileage may very.
I've seen guys who have been on heavy gear for decades without serious long term issues. Seen guys die in their twenties from a combination of heavy gear and too fast paced lifestyles. Seen guys who get crazy "roid rage" and seen guys who are not affected by it at all. If you want to try it be responsible about it as far as you can, and keep in mind it might bite you in the ass.
Not endorsing in any way. Stay clean if you can. You can achieve the same results with more time in a healthier way.
 
Not endorsing in any way. Stay clean if you can. You can achieve the same results with more time in a healthier way.
This is a big point for me personally - we can all gain muscle (with the absence of specific disorders that hinder) & it comes down to quite a few things.

Getting it quick is great but the hard grind is not un-doable & it can also be regained once lost.
 
This is a big point for me personally - we can all gain muscle (with the absence of specific disorders that hinder) & it comes down to quite a few things.

Getting it quick is great but the hard grind is not un-doable & it can also be regained once lost.
Exactly. There's no point in putting on a ton of muscle if you don't already have a lifestyle that will maintain it after a cycle, and if you already have that lifestyle you will put on enough muscle anyway.
 
Exactly. There's no point in putting on a ton of muscle if you don't already have a lifestyle that will maintain it after a cycle, and if you already have that lifestyle you will put on enough muscle anyway.
Yip - my thoughts are the same with these weight loss injections for a few months && then the person returns back to eating crap + not exercising.

As I am fully realising - going to gym is a holistic process (you need to eat the right combinations, treat your body well & exercise consistently to get the best results).
 

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