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Samgoma Samgoma sorry about the issues.

What light and what distance. Light specification if possible and light cycle.

When you flushed coco did you use calmag as well?

What nutrients are you using and the EC? (starting off to current)

Are you testing you ph before or after nutes?

Do you flush the coco every week with PH'd water? GH kleen is great.
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1.) Generic Amazon full spectrum blurple LED - "1000w" 185w actual draw. Kept it about 50-60cm away, possibly a bit less. I ended up moving it further up and is now about 70+cm away. PAR at this distance should measure around 200-300 umols I think. One of the diodes fried so I'm assuming it's a little lower than the manufacturers stated PAR.

2.) Didn't flush with calmag, as I was told by the store that it's already been buffered. Bought it from Hortishop (50/50 coco/perlite)

3.) I use GHE Flora Trio, but only use Nitrosol when they're young. I haven't given any nutes yet, and when I do it will be a 1/4 to 1/2 dose of Nitrosol to start. I keep PPM at 150-200 when I feed for the first time. Tap water comes out around 40-60ppm, so pretty low. Sometimes I drip a little Nitrosol in to get the PPM a little bit higher (around 150-160 at most), then pH and adjust to 5.8

4.) Always test after. It's silly to test before because nutes will change the pH after you add them.

5.) Too early for me to flush the coco while they're still this small. Usually I only flush when they transition, and then once again before harvest. Never used GH kleen but would like to try. I always flush with pH'd water.

Hope this helps!
 

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Yo!

1.) Generic Amazon full spectrum blurple LED - "1000w" 185w actual draw. Kept it about 50-60cm away, possibly a bit less. I ended up moving it further up and is now about 70+cm away. PAR at this distance should measure around 200-300 umols I think. One of the diodes fried so I'm assuming it's a little lower than the manufacturers stated PAR.

2.) Didn't flush with calmag, as I was told by the store that it's already been buffered. Bought it from Hortishop (50/50 coco/perlite)

3.) I use GHE Flora Trio, but only use Nitrosol when they're young. I haven't given any nutes yet, and when I do it will be a 1/4 to 1/2 dose of Nitrosol to start. I keep PPM at 150-200 when I feed for the first time. Tap water comes out around 40-60ppm, so pretty low. Sometimes I drip a little Nitrosol in to get the PPM a little bit higher (around 150-160 at most), then pH and adjust to 5.8

4.) Always test after. It's silly to test before because nutes will change the pH after you add them.

5.) Too early for me to flush the coco while they're still this small. Usually I only flush when they transition, and then once again before harvest. Never used GH kleen but would like to try. I always flush with pH'd water.

Hope this helps!
Forgot to add that my Temps are super low. Around 17c. Ive since bought a heater, but I'm having trouble with my timer. Im glad you brought up the temps because I think you're definitely on to something. The temps are way too low for a seedling!

My RH is sitting around 60 on average I think, but I use makeshift humidity domes and give it a light misting when it dries out in there. Haven't done it in a while since I've had the temperature and overwatering issue

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Yo!

1.) Generic Amazon full spectrum blurple LED - "1000w" 185w actual draw. Kept it about 50-60cm away, possibly a bit less. I ended up moving it further up and is now about 70+cm away. PAR at this distance should measure around 200-300 umols I think. One of the diodes fried so I'm assuming it's a little lower than the manufacturers stated PAR.

2.) Didn't flush with calmag, as I was told by the store that it's already been buffered. Bought it from Hortishop (50/50 coco/perlite)

3.) I use GHE Flora Trio, but only use Nitrosol when they're young. I haven't given any nutes yet, and when I do it will be a 1/4 to 1/2 dose of Nitrosol to start. I keep PPM at 150-200 when I feed for the first time. Tap water comes out around 40-60ppm, so pretty low. Sometimes I drip a little Nitrosol in to get the PPM a little bit higher (around 150-160 at most), then pH and adjust to 5.8

4.) Always test after. It's silly to test before because nutes will change the pH after you add them.

5.) Too early for me to flush the coco while they're still this small. Usually I only flush when they transition, and then once again before harvest. Never used GH kleen but would like to try. I always flush with pH'd water.

Hope this helps!
1. It is possible your led burnt the young, at 185w its probably 150 Umol M2/s at a 50cm distance. But that depends on efficiency.

You should see if it was led burn fairly easily and new leaves would still grow but twist.

2. Always flush with calmag and RO water, even if they say they do. When they flush its huge scale and they use as little as possible.

3. For seedlings try put them in a neoprene collar and into a polystyrene cup with half the roots in RO water with a bit of calmag and the GH nutes. Total of 250 PPM (700) for the first week then jump by 250-300 ppm a week for veg.

4. Some nutes don't change ph but its wise to test.

Keep air temp 22*c and RH 40%. High RH Wil give you mildew fast.

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1. It is possible your led burnt the young, at 185w its probably 150 Umol M2/s at a 50cm distance. But that depends on efficiency.

You should see if it was led burn fairly easily and new leaves would still grow but twist.

2. Always flush with calmag and RO water, even if they say they do. When they flush its huge scale and they use as little as possible.

3. For seedlings try put them in a neoprene collar and into a polystyrene cup with half the roots in RO water with a bit of calmag and the GH nutes. Total of 250 PPM (700) for the first week then jump by 250-300 ppm a week for veg.

4. Some nutes don't change ph but its wise to test.

Keep air temp 22*c and RH 40%. High RH Wil give you mildew fast.

Good luck
Solid info my man. Thanks so much. I'll make note of this

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Should I harvest this one or leave it still?

That looks a little past its due date.
Is this growing in a pot of in the ground?

Depending on the above you could still harvest. Although it seems that the flower degrade has already started so it's won't be a great smoke. Best would be flush it, cut and wet trim, cure for a 2 weeks min and then jar and burp for another 3 weeks.
 

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Thanks, Sub-lime Sub-lime , so should I harvest when its still green? the aroma is still quite strong at this stage, it hasn't really lost any as yet and this will be part of baked goods :) hier word nie meer gerook nie !
As for growth, in the backgarden in the the soil, this is on the edge of the orange river flood plain, it probably never was flooded in the past, I guess, certainly not now anymore... 2 more plantjies started sprouting in the same location, some seeds got put there around a month ago, now there's new ones popping out of the ground... hope we don't get any frost...
 

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Thanks, Sub-lime Sub-lime , so should I harvest when its still green? the aroma is still quite strong at this stage, it hasn't really lost any as yet and this will be part of baked goods :) hier word nie meer gerook nie !
As for growth, in the backgarden in the the soil, this is on the edge of the orange river flood plain, it probably never was flooded in the past, I guess, certainly not now anymore... 2 more plantjies started sprouting in the same location, some seeds got put there around a month ago, now there's new ones popping out of the ground... hope we don't get any frost...
Nice! all natural

When the little hairs (pestils) are 30% amber and the rest milky. I would suggest reading about harvesting, drying and curing as its a vital to get it right or you will end up with
harsh or moldy buds. Temperature and humidity is key!

You can exclude the flushing stage as yours is grown naturally. flushing is really only needed for people using synthetic nutrients.
 

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so here is one, should i top off or fim or just let it grow as it wants? Soil base indoor.
 

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Nice! all natural

When the little hairs (pestils) are 30% amber and the rest milky. I would suggest reading about harvesting, drying and curing as its a vital to get it right or you will end up with
harsh or moldy buds. Temperature and humidity is key!

You can exclude the flushing stage as yours is grown naturally. flushing is really only needed for people using synthetic nutrients.
Tbh I wouldn't rely on pistils for when to harvest. I would recommend looking at the trichomes of the buds. What Sub-lime Sub-lime was correct, but replace pistils with trichomes. You want to wait until they're at least 20% amber and the rest cloudy/white. You won't really be able to see the trichomes properly with the naked eye, so you may need to invest in a jewelers loupe or a magnifying glass to get a closer look at them. I second the advice on doing research about harvesting, drying or curing. Temps and humidity are absolutely vital. I lost half of my top cola from my last auto to mold and I can tell you now that it really freaking sucks.

so here is one, should i top off or fim or just let it grow as it wants? Soil base indoor.
If it's an auto I would recommend letting it grow naturally, but look into a method called LST or Low Stress Training. It's basically just bending down the top of the plant to expose the lower nodes to more light and allow them to catch up to the top node.

If it's a photo, then you can either top or FIM. Read about both methods some more, because the question you asked is quite a subjective one. Some people top, some people FIM, some people even top autos.

I swear by topping and will do it to every single one of my photoperiod plants. My last photo I grew was topped once low stress trained, and ended up becoming super short and bushy (which I love)

Try out all of these methods while growing and find what works best for you :)
 

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Agree the best way is to check trichomes however in this case I mentioned Pistils as it's an easier way for a non tech grower and not having to buy equipment even if they are affordable.
 

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Everyones plants are looking great. Mine is still flowering and it seems with the cold it has slowed a bit. But coming along.
 

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DreadZero DreadZero curiosity crept in and i'm going to the factory to go spec the lighting this coming week. They all look like some good guys to deal with, interested to see the finer details.

@Terumo Assuming you mean the 12w led spot. To answer in short answer no, i would advise going with a minimum of 120w led (wall power draw of 120w+-) per flowing plant. A lot of cheaper led systems that are out there will list high wattage but hardly draw 50% of that from the wall; Marketing specs.

If you're on a budget or simply just don't want to fork out then this would be your best option. Lumii Black 600w Magnetic Kit - Online Hydroponics Shop
Its not nearly efficient as led, and you will need to change to a different spectrum bulb for flowering (Do not touch the bulbs ever) and you will need some cooling as these get HOT but this is a proven grow light and will work well for you.

Yes 600w sounds a lot but in the cannabis world (even hobbyist) that's the "starting point" for a worth while grow.
Any update on this, keen to hear what you learnt
 

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Hey Guys,

I have 4x 250w dimmable Quantum boards left over from a previous client. There are 2x 3500K with 660nm and 2x 4000K with 660nm.
These use genuine Samsung LM301B diodes and Meanwell HLG drivers.

They are all brand new and come with hanging kits.
Bargain price of R5200 each, these are not Chinese trash products!

I use these exact lights myself and have had excellent results in all stages.
 

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Hey Guys,

I have 4x 250w dimmable Quantum boards left over from a previous client. There are 2x 3500K with 660nm and 2x 4000K with 660nm.
These use genuine Samsung LM301B diodes and Meanwell HLG drivers.

They are all brand new and come with hanging kits.
Bargain price of R5200 each, these are not Chinese trash products!

I use these exact lights myself and have had excellent results in all stages.
Honestly wish I could but I really shouldn't :( I would kill for the 3500k spectrum one 😢 I've seen nothing but good results from those QB's. Samsung LM301B diodes + Meanwell Drivers are the best imo.

You should post a sale thread for those. Do you offer shipping too? Maybe I'll sell my blurple or something 😅
 

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Honestly wish I could but I really shouldn't :( I would kill for the 3500k spectrum one 😢 I've seen nothing but good results from those QB's. Samsung LM301B diodes + Meanwell Drivers are the best imo.

You should post a sale thread for those. Do you offer shipping too? Maybe I'll sell my blurple or something 😅
Yep these really are great, I can happily ship this too you at your cost, Its around 4kg.
honestly you cant go wrong with these, great spectrum, high efficiency and low heat.

I harvested a Purple Orange CBD plant last night after 4.5months in veg-flower and got a wet 900g+ wet yield under a single QB 250w. I can expect around 250g dry.

I'l be bringing in the V3 550w for myself soon, the LM301H which is Samsung's top horticultural performer and 90CRI.
 

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Yep these really are great, I can happily ship this too you at your cost, Its around 4kg.
honestly you cant go wrong with these, great spectrum, high efficiency and low heat.

I harvested a Purple Orange CBD plant last night after 4.5months in veg-flower and got a wet 900g+ wet yield under a single QB 250w. I can expect around 250g dry.

I'l be bringing in the V3 550w for myself soon, the LM301H which is Samsung's top horticultural performer and 90CRI.
PICS of that harvest please!!!!!!:cool:
 

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Its was a little exhausting harvesting, 2 snips got completely jammed with sticky res and the smell was intense, eyes were watering constantly. lol
 

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Got myself a burple light now recently and have started off with one of Bob Marley's favorite strains LAMBS BREAD. Hopefully I can make a success out of this. Outdoor cheese is coming along quite nicely. I have topped it to the first nodes and after this it just shot out quickly This weekend I need to do the LST on the outdoor cheese.
 

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