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Bad deal with @Kelevra_za

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Deal Thread URL: Seller: @Kelevra_za
Buyer: @Rafique
Description of Bad Deal:

Got @George to vouch for the seller, Paid on the 11th, sent courier to collect the next day and guy doesn't give the package.
Till now, courier has been there everyday but nothing.
He than says courier has picked up but he never got the waybill and the courier says no one at the address knows about the collection.

Guy gave a fake address as i called them and no knows of him.

Cant get hold of @George or the seller as his phone is off most of the day.


 
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Those two seem to be the same guy used to scam you. Sorry for your loss. If you want to make a case let me know, and I'll try my best to find all the info I can on him and send it to you via PM. You can then perhaps go to SAPS and open a case against him.
 

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I know Rafique and have been helping.

The address he gave is fake. I google the address and its a uniform shop/house business. I phoned and they don't know anything about the name given by the seller.
We have his bank details and telephone number. Will be laying a police charge of theft.
Probably also contact the bank once there is a case number and get the correct name of the account holder.

The person that vouched for him is also MIA, which is suspect.
The 1 good feedback on his account I contacted and he said he met the guy in a public place when they made the deal, so no address. He said he would also try get in contact with him.

Let me know if I can share Name given by seller.
 

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Can we please tag the guys who had dealings with George. So they can see this thread and offer up any details of this scammer.
 

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No George planned this. Created a new account, dealt with it, vouched for it and then scammed with it.
That's crazy, I dealt with him last week, seemed like a great guy. Deal went super smoothly. I'm actually chatting with him on whatsapp right now. if this is all true, I have his banking deets and a real address my item was collected from. Finding this really hard to believe. :oops:
 

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That's crazy, I dealt with him last week, seemed like a great guy. Deal went super smoothly. I'm actually chatting with him on whatsapp right now. if this is all true, I have his banking deets and a real address my item was collected from. Finding this really hard to believe. :oops:
Please ask George to come online and explain himself. He has not been on Carbonite since Saturday evening.
Otherwise his address, cellphone number and name will be useful when laying a criminal charge at the police station.
 

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Below is from the courier guy

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Hi

George here, a little difficult to respond with my account banned and only found out about this yesterday. Kelevra is not my account but I know who the person is, and try to find out what went down and get it sorted. Have sent a pm to Rafique and trying to get hold of the actual seller. Will sort this out and clear everything up.

Kind Regards
George
 

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@George you have 1 hour to respond here. I want to know:

1. Why you two have hit the same IP address over 57 times in the past month.
2. Why the email address used to create the @Kelevra_za account contains your name and birth year.
3. Why you sell the same stuff in the same timeline (laptops).
4. Why I must believe you if you say it's not the same account.
 

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Can someone just contact George and tell him to get his ass on here. I don't want to permaban the guy if he has a story here, but if he doesn't come to the party his time is over.
 

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Hey guys, it's someone I know, I helped them get on here. So yes, assisted him with account creation, postings and so on. I've messaged Rafique, that I will assist and take responsibility as I vouched for him, it's a family friend, sort of. Just trying to get hold of the seller (Nic) to clear this up and will conclude things. I've been unsuccessful to get him on his mobile, so will give his brother a shout today and find out what's going on. Thank you.
 

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Hey guys, it's someone I know, I helped them get on here. So yes, assisted him with account creation, postings and so on. I've messaged Rafique, that I will assist and take responsibility as I vouched for him, it's a family friend, sort of. Just trying to get hold of the seller (Nic) to clear this up and will conclude things. I've been unsuccessful to get him on his mobile, so will give his brother a shout today and find out what's going on. Thank you.
So you created an account for him using your email address?
 

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Hey guys, it's someone I know, I helped them get on here. So yes, assisted him with account creation, postings and so on. I've messaged Rafique, that I will assist and take responsibility as I vouched for him, it's a family friend, sort of. Just trying to get hold of the seller (Nic) to clear this up and will conclude things. I've been unsuccessful to get him on his mobile, so will give his brother a shout today and find out what's going on. Thank you.

An update would be appreciated. Were you able to get hold of him?
 

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Hey guys, it's someone I know, I helped them get on here. So yes, assisted him with account creation, postings and so on. I've messaged Rafique, that I will assist and take responsibility as I vouched for him, it's a family friend, sort of. Just trying to get hold of the seller (Nic) to clear this up and will conclude things. I've been unsuccessful to get him on his mobile, so will give his brother a shout today and find out what's going on. Thank you.
Hi @George
Any update, or has he gone MIA with Rafiques money?
 

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Hey guys, it's someone I know, I helped them get on here. So yes, assisted him with account creation, postings and so on. I've messaged Rafique, that I will assist and take responsibility as I vouched for him, it's a family friend, sort of. Just trying to get hold of the seller (Nic) to clear this up and will conclude things. I've been unsuccessful to get him on his mobile, so will give his brother a shout today and find out what's going on. Thank you.
Rafique tells me he has been messaging you but no reply from you.
 

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Hi there, so managed to get hold of the seller who had gone awol, he claims he left the package with a worker at his place and was collected by a courier last week. There should be cctv footage, which I've requested. Needless to say this situation has caused enough and it's me who's being hunted with pitch forks. I'm trying to assist but at this point if you should like to get the authorities involved, please do so as either way, no penny touched my account and it was not my deal. I'm trying to track down which courier collected or if I'm being lied, either that or the worker. Will keep you guys posted on any developments but I have a lot on my plate at the moment, so I will check up on the site as I get the chance to. I've been here long enough and don't really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent, perhaps if I was a newbie here.
As for the buyer, Rafique, I'm trying to whatever I can to get this resolved. I have not been able to speak to the worker who apparently gave the parcel to the courier. I'm going to try go there hopefully later if I can, otherwise hopefully on Thursday.
 

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Hi there, so managed to get hold of the seller who had gone awol, he claims he left the package with a worker at his place and was collected by a courier last week. There should be cctv footage, which I've requested. Needless to say this situation has caused enough and it's me who's being hunted with pitch forks. I'm trying to assist but at this point if you should like to get the authorities involved, please do so as either way, no penny touched my account and it was not my deal. I'm trying to track down which courier collected or if I'm being lied, either that or the worker. Will keep you guys posted on any developments but I have a lot on my plate at the moment, so I will check up on the site as I get the chance to. I've been here long enough and don't really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent, perhaps if I was a newbie here.
As for the buyer, Rafique, I'm trying to whatever I can to get this resolved. I have not been able to speak to the worker who apparently gave the parcel to the courier. I'm going to try go there hopefully later if I can, otherwise hopefully on Thursday.

What is the address that the package was apparently collected at? The address given is a uniform shop. I spoke to the owner there, and they have been there for 4 years.
The address he gave the couriers (and Rafique) nobody knows a 'Nic'. Couriers were there numerous times and were told every time they know nothing about a package collection or a Nic. Also, where is the waybill? If he has CCTV footage, then that's great, please show us. I don't see a reason for the couriers to lie. See above for their reply.
 

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Hi there, so managed to get hold of the seller who had gone awol, he claims he left the package with a worker at his place and was collected by a courier last week. There should be cctv footage, which I've requested. Needless to say this situation has caused enough and it's me who's being hunted with pitch forks. I'm trying to assist but at this point if you should like to get the authorities involved, please do so as either way, no penny touched my account and it was not my deal. I'm trying to track down which courier collected or if I'm being lied, either that or the worker. Will keep you guys posted on any developments but I have a lot on my plate at the moment, so I will check up on the site as I get the chance to. I've been here long enough and don't really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent, perhaps if I was a newbie here.
As for the buyer, Rafique, I'm trying to whatever I can to get this resolved. I have not been able to speak to the worker who apparently gave the parcel to the courier. I'm going to try go there hopefully later if I can, otherwise hopefully on Thursday.
Mentioning the courier company would not hurt & help add credibility to this story.
 

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Hi there, so managed to get hold of the seller who had gone awol, he claims he left the package with a worker at his place and was collected by a courier last week. There should be cctv footage, which I've requested. Needless to say this situation has caused enough and it's me who's being hunted with pitch forks. I'm trying to assist but at this point if you should like to get the authorities involved, please do so as either way, no penny touched my account and it was not my deal. I'm trying to track down which courier collected or if I'm being lied, either that or the worker. Will keep you guys posted on any developments but I have a lot on my plate at the moment, so I will check up on the site as I get the chance to. I've been here long enough and don't really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent, perhaps if I was a newbie here.
As for the buyer, Rafique, I'm trying to whatever I can to get this resolved. I have not been able to speak to the worker who apparently gave the parcel to the courier. I'm going to try go there hopefully later if I can, otherwise hopefully on Thursday.
Your time spent here is the reason I gave you a chance to come on to state your side. I still don't see how his account could not be linked, considering his email address contains YOUR information. You never answered that part for me.

Also, in the interest of justice, I believe it would be best if you send Rafique all the guy's information. All we can find is yours, and the account linked to your name, and if that's what he has, that's what he's going to go to SAPS with. I know it doesn't sound fair, but look at it from his side for a second as well.

I think it's time to stop trying to cover up for that guy who scammed this member, and get his ass where it needs to be - in a jail cell. If he's done it here, I can almost promise you he's done it elsewhere before, or he'll be doing it again in the future. He thought it through and executed it really well, I just think he never expected this forum to lash back.
 

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Mentioning the courier company would not hurt & help add credibility to this story.
Evans from The Courier Guy, Its in one of my posts above.
He phoned everyday he went to the address given and said nobody knew anything about a package.

I want to know the address he apparently gave and said the parcel was collected from.
Because like I said, the address the couriers have, I googled and phoned the address.
 

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Hi there, so managed to get hold of the seller who had gone awol, he claims he left the package with a worker at his place and was collected by a courier last week. There should be cctv footage, which I've requested. Needless to say this situation has caused enough and it's me who's being hunted with pitch forks. I'm trying to assist but at this point if you should like to get the authorities involved, please do so as either way, no penny touched my account and it was not my deal. I'm trying to track down which courier collected or if I'm being lied, either that or the worker. Will keep you guys posted on any developments but I have a lot on my plate at the moment, so I will check up on the site as I get the chance to. I've been here long enough and don't really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent, perhaps if I was a newbie here.
As for the buyer, Rafique, I'm trying to whatever I can to get this resolved. I have not been able to speak to the worker who apparently gave the parcel to the courier. I'm going to try go there hopefully later if I can, otherwise hopefully on Thursday.

Please pm us that address. Is it the same as the one I have or different? Because NOBODY at the address we have, knows a NIC. start there...
and I would love to see this CCTV footage. Something tells me it will never materialize. Otherwise it would have been in your first post.
 

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Been almost 2 weeks now since payment was made and no update.

@George , you did say you would reimburse me and deal with the seller yourself, When is this happening?

 

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