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Original website and link - ASUS Announces its AMD X470 Motherboard Lineup

The press releases have come out. Stock is in SA and we can all play in a few days.
I only care about this motherboard as it's the one closest to my interests. Will post results here as soon as it's legal to do so.

Pretty awesome looking motherboard, with great features for those who like to tune for performance. Unlike with INTEL platform there's a lot to tune here which can make a but of a difference in performance, power and heat output. I'm convinced there aren't any better motherboards out there than this one in terms of outright performance and tuning capabilities. I've seen as have you some results from MSI boards, but I'm willing to bet the CHVII is still the better option ;)

It's not a cosmetic upgrade over the CHVI and there are some fundamental differences between these which will help with an overall better experience. More consistent performance, better stability and reliability as well. While the VRM may look identical, it is not and has been further improved. How many reviews will go into this, I can't be sure however it does matter I think when you'll be paying top price for the most premium motherboard there is barring the Extreme or some such thing if there ever is to be one.
 

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Finally ready to give the retail version of the Crosshair VII Hero Wi-FI a spin.

Doubt if I'll bother with any other board, perhaps the Extreme maybe, but this is one awesome piece of kit. Nice performance boosts as well as per usual with ROG boards and their profiles and performance bias options.
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damn those are some phat heatspreaders on that memory!

Not sure if ill get the x470. Def waiting for the Extreme version if they making one. Main reason i got the x370 hero extreme was the horizontal 24pin. <3 dont know if i can go back to another board with a vertical one haha.
 

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This memory is savage under the right conditions ;) (4000 C11 good, like the early to mid life B-die, not the rubbish you find now)
Ready for some AMD action guys?
It's going to be a party, just under 3 hours from now NDA lifts. Got some pretty awesome scores on this platform.
 
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This memory is savage under the right conditions ;) (4000 C11 good, like the early to mid life B-die, not the rubbish you find now)
Ready for some AMD action guys?
It's going to be a party, just under 3 hours from now NDA lifts. Got some pretty awesome scores on this platform.
Sounds VERY positive by your comment
 

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Sounds VERY positive by your comment
Outside of it being competition to INTEL of course. I'm just excited purely for it's improvements over 1st gen Ryzen.
Just in case some people were expecting some unrealistic overclocks or performance.
 

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Not benchmark stable over about 4.3ghz, but apparently pretty easy to get a screenshot at higher clocks, sort of pointless IMO.
Apparently pretty easy yeah, and you've tried this when exactly?
Isn't that to miss the point of overclocking completely?
When a drag car does an 8 sec 1/4 Mile, is it sort of pointless?
When F1, Indy, Nascar vehicles go around in circles, is it pointless?
Why is overclocking and validation looked at in a different light? Does it not take technical know-how, effort and dedication to achieve? If so, then why is it pointless?
 
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Not benchmark stable over about 4.3ghz, but apparently pretty easy to get a screenshot at higher clocks, sort of pointless IMO.
Apparently pretty easy yeah, and you've tried this when exactly?
Isn't that to miss the point of overclocking completely?
When a drag car does an 8 sec 1/4 Mile, is it sort of pointless?
When F1, Indy, Nascar vehicles go around in circles, is it pointless?
Why is overclocking and validation looked at in a different light? Does it not take technical know-how, effort and dedication to achieve? If so, then why is it pointless?
Because if you can't say what the performance is at xyz overclock, then is it really relevant? You haven't beaten a score in any benchmarks.
 

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damn those are some phat heatspreaders on that memory!

Not sure if ill get the x470. Def waiting for the Extreme version if they making one. Main reason i got the x370 hero extreme was the horizontal 24pin. <3 dont know if i can go back to another board with a vertical one haha.
 

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As a Intel fan I must say, from a streaming, and purely streaming POV, the new AMD stuff looks VERRRRY good. The concensus seems to be get the non X and OC it, but this is to save ~$30 so ~ R500 which I can't believe in "a thing" coming from reputable, technical reviewers. Maybe it just shows how rubbish the ZAR is & how little R500 buys VS what USD30 buys?
 

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Because if you can't say what the performance is at xyz overclock, then is it really relevant? You haven't beaten a score in any benchmarks.
1. Milestones aren't measured solely by beating a benchmark score. This 6GHz matters because it speaks to the process and node AMD is employing vs. the previous Ryzen which couldn't get anywhere near this frequency.
2. You again assume I've not beaten any score, the thing is you didn't ask, didn't bother looking or anything. You just assumed because that is easier and you can do it from your keyboard or mobile phone. Not a surprise that you're wrong, very wrong actually, as not only did I beat GPU PI 1B record, also landed the only AMD in top 20 for GeekBench 3 (Actually #2 in the world Global), Top 10 in R15 (Actually have the record at present for AMD and #8 for 8-Core CPUs global) and #4 in Cinebench R11.5 with all the scores above at 6GHZ+

Then again, always easier to throw shade right, especially before you have any information :)
 

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Because if you can't say what the performance is at xyz overclock, then is it really relevant? You haven't beaten a score in any benchmarks.
1. Milestones aren't measured solely by beating a benchmark score. This 6GHz matters because it speaks to the process and node AMD is employing vs. the previous Ryzen which couldn't get anywhere near this frequency.
2. You again assume I've not beaten any score, the thing is you didn't ask, didn't bother looking or anything. You just assumed because that is easier and you can do it from your keyboard or mobile phone. Not a surprise that you're wrong, very wrong actually, as not only did I beat GPU PI 1B record, also landed the only AMD in top 20 for GeekBench 3 (Actually #2 in the world Global), Top 10 in R15 (Actually have the record at present for AMD and #8 for 8-Core CPUs global) and #4 in Cinebench R11.5 with all the scores above at 6GHZ+

Then again, always easier to throw shade right, especially before you have any information :)
I'm aware of your OC achievements.
Doesn't change the fact that your 5ghz screen further up in the thread is like dressing up a 520i to look like a M5; it still goes like a 520i; all pout no clout, doesn't mean anything to 99.9% of users. It's nothing like your other OCs that actually have measurable results.

Anyway, that's just my 2c- if it's not stable, it can't be measured, we can't compare it in a meaningful way. Maybe a tiny step in the right direction for AMD, would be nice when it actually means something to the other 99.9% of us.
 

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I'm aware of your OC achievements.
Doesn't change the fact that your 5ghz screen further up in the thread is like dressing up a 520i to look like a M5; it still goes like a 520i; all pout no clout, doesn't mean anything to 99.9% of users. It's nothing like your other OCs that actually have measurable results.

Anyway, that's just my 2c- if it's not stable, it can't be measured, we can't compare it in a meaningful way. Maybe a tiny step in the right direction for AMD, would be nice when it actually means something to the other 99.9% of us.
1. You can't know what the 99% of people want, find interesting or need. You can only know about you and the things that concern you and like minded people. Your world is not the entire world.

2. CPU-Z validation is important once again because it speaks to the maturity of the manufacturing process or the advancements made. Being able to switch transistors that quickly is an achievement. In 2006, IBM was switching a transistor at 500GHz @ 4.5Kelvin - (https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1162060) Was that a pointless exercise because it's not relevant to you and your gaming needs?

3. CPUs are not made just for you, your games etc. It's computing power, it's technology and it's science. Can be applied to many different things and used by many different people. More over even if you did represent the 99.9%, does that then mean 0.01 shouldn't have something or a product that speaks to their interests, purely because it has no relevance or interest to you? There are millions of people who don't care about a great many things you do, that doesn't mean the products and things you care for shouldn't exist.

4. How do you say it can't be measured since it isn't stable? What do you think we are measuring in GHZ? We measure clock cycles, using an internal clock counter, that is a measurement.

5. Tiny step in the right direction how exactly? Do you know what the intention was for AMD and what their milestones were?
Did you consider leakage, scalability, yields etc? Those are the things that matter to AMD. With the same Ryzen you can find or not find things that matter to you. However, do not assume that your perspective and vantage point is the one and only valid one. These validations actually matter, that's why both INTEL and AMD literally have LN2 and CPU containers etc inside their labs. That is why they will screen a number of CPUs and send to vendors and ask them to clock away. It is to test many things including the limitations and variations in the silicon quality in extreme cases. One of the things that was fixed in Ryzen 2 is PCI-Express dropping down to 1.1 and x1 mode under LN2, you don't know about this because you never tried Ryzen LN2, dont' care for it etc. Yet that is something that was reported after the last LN2 session from Ryzen 1. That issue is much improved and 3D benchmarks can be run with the CPU under LN2 now. How else was this diagnosis going to be performed if not at these extreme temps and frequencies?

6. Lastly, it doesn't have to mean anything to you and if it doesn't feel free to leave the thread. Because all this has added nothing. The work is from other people, the achievement is by other people, the sharing of information is by other people, the context is understood by other people, but in all of this it must come down to just your singular opinion which you can formulate by literally doing nothing.
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