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Anyone else not able to OC in bios on MSI B350 PC Mate?

#1
Got this board recently, and with the latest bios, cannot get even a 32.25 multiplier on my R5 1400 set through bios to POST. Underclocking works just fine, as does memory overclocking. I've tried this with default settings, with an OC on the memory, with nothing but the graphics card installed, on a bench, in the case, different memory slots occupied (only have 1 ddr4 chip to test with though) with c-States on and off, SMT on and off, XFR on and off, stock voltage and 1.35v on vcore, you get the idea. If there is a setting to be changed, I'm fairly certain I've changed it, with no luck. Anyone able to help out here? First time using Ryzen so maybe there's something I'm missing.
 
#3
Have you tried with Ryzen master?
Have you updated the bios to the latest release?

I've OC'd a few system using B350 tomahwks but not the PC Mate.
As I said, I am using the latest bios version 7A34vAD released on the 20th of March 2018. As for Ryzen Master, it works to OC through the software, but I do prefer being able to go through bios so I don't need to apply an OC profile at every start-up. I emailed them while I was troubleshooting and they replied yesterday with "the relevant department is working on it and we will release a new bios to solve it" so it seems like it is indeed a borked bios release on msi's part. Now, is there any way to flash a previous version to the board, or am I stuck until they release a fix?
 
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Have you tried with Ryzen master?
Have you updated the bios to the latest release?

I've OC'd a few system using B350 tomahwks but not the PC Mate.
As I said, I am using the latest bios version 7A34vAD released on the 20th of March 2018. As for Ryzen Master, it works to OC through the software, but I do prefer being able to go through bios so I don't need to apply an OC profile at every start-up. I emailed them while I was troubleshooting and they replied yesterday with "the relevant department is working on it and we will release a new bios to solve it" so it seems like it is indeed a borked bios release on msi's part. Now, is there any way to flash a previous version to the board, or am I stuck until they release a fix?
No way to reflash to a previous bios as far as I know on AGESA. Also trying that could/will brick the mobo. If I were you I'd just wait for the next bios update or get a better mobo meanwhile if you are serious about OCing.
 

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Is it a bad cpu, possibly?

Maybe check reviews on the board an see how far they could push it before they got throttling.

A few people are having problems with this board and overclocking by the looks of a Google search.

Maybe wait for a new BIOS, maybe get an X470 motherboard. Your choice.
 
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No way to reflash to a previous bios as far as I know on AGESA. Also trying that could/will brick the mobo. If I were you I'd just wait for the next bios update or get a better mobo meanwhile if you are serious about OCing.
I'm just going to wait it out and see if they un-fuck the bios. Although an X470 will be the next board I get, planning on a staggered upgrade to Ryzen 2. Will be a few months though.

3.95ghz through Ryzen master is doing fine for now, but keenly await the ability to OC from bios
 
#7
Is it a bad cpu, possibly?

Maybe check reviews on the board an see how far they could push it before they got throttling.

A few people are having problems with this board and overclocking by the looks of a Google search.

Maybe wait for a new BIOS, maybe get an X470 motherboard. Your choice.
Cpu hasn't given issues overclocking through Ryzen master, and the previous owner sent proof of its ability to OC. So can't be much except bios issues.

Will certainly be looking at X470 and Ryzen 2 in the future. I could have waited, but my i3 3220 was really getting me down.
 

JollyJamma

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Is it a bad cpu, possibly?

Maybe check reviews on the board an see how far they could push it before they got throttling.

A few people are having problems with this board and overclocking by the looks of a Google search.

Maybe wait for a new BIOS, maybe get an X470 motherboard. Your choice.
Cpu hasn't given issues overclocking through Ryzen master, and the previous owner sent proof of its ability to OC. So can't be much except bios issues.

Will certainly be looking at X470 and Ryzen 2 in the future. I could have waited, but my i3 3220 was really getting me down.
X470 that bitch and enjoy. Nothing better than having a good motherboard to build with later, you can get a better cpu later on when prices drop.

It’s why I went for the Z370 and still would, even with the cheaper Coffee lake motherboards out there. You get more and they resell better.

Now I’m saving up for an 8600K and shall enjoy that when it comes, keeping my i3 as a backup CPU.
 
#9
X470 that bitch and enjoy. Nothing better than having a good motherboard to build with later, you can get a better cpu later on when prices drop.

It’s why I went for the Z370 and still would, even with the cheaper Coffee lake motherboards out there. You get more and they resell better.

Now I’m saving up for an 8600K and shall enjoy that when it comes, keeping my i3 as a backup CPU.
This is true. Didn't feel the need for X370 because of the fact that X470 was just around the corner. I am interested to see what OC capability difference exists between the two platforms though, so will be holding on to the b350 until I can get a 2000 series Ryzen chip. The X470 should blow it out of the water, but by how much I don't know.
 

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X470 that bitch and enjoy. Nothing better than having a good motherboard to build with later, you can get a better cpu later on when prices drop.

It’s why I went for the Z370 and still would, even with the cheaper Coffee lake motherboards out there. You get more and they resell better.

Now I’m saving up for an 8600K and shall enjoy that when it comes, keeping my i3 as a backup CPU.
This is true. Didn't feel the need for X370 because of the fact that X470 was just around the corner. I am interested to see what OC capability difference exists between the two platforms though, so will be holding on to the b350 until I can get a 2000 series Ryzen chip. The X470 should blow it out of the water, but by how much I don't know.
Gamers Nexus has some reviews up, comparing the new chipsets and CPUs to the old ones. So far, the new CPUs are that much more different in performance but require a lot less power than before. Eg 1.15v compared to the old 1.45v

The motherboards are superior in many ways. I would go find some reviews and see if it tickles your fancy
 
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X470 that bitch and enjoy. Nothing better than having a good motherboard to build with later, you can get a better cpu later on when prices drop.

It’s why I went for the Z370 and still would, even with the cheaper Coffee lake motherboards out there. You get more and they resell better.

Now I’m saving up for an 8600K and shall enjoy that when it comes, keeping my i3 as a backup CPU.
This is true. Didn't feel the need for X370 because of the fact that X470 was just around the corner. I am interested to see what OC capability difference exists between the two platforms though, so will be holding on to the b350 until I can get a 2000 series Ryzen chip. The X470 should blow it out of the water, but by how much I don't know.
I've got a R5 1600 and B350M and was planning on getting a X470 but after seeing reviews etc I'm not convinced to upgrade to a X470. Would rather get a 2nd hand cheaper X370 as there really isn't much difference compared to X370 chipset apart from memory compatibility as far as I have seen. XFR2 / Overclocking performance limits are built into the CPU and not directly related to the motherboard regardless if you use a 2700X on a X370 or X470. But if you have the moneys to spend I'd say go for the new X470.

Check this:
 
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I've got a R5 1600 and B350M and was planning on getting a X470 but after seeing reviews etc I'm not convinced to upgrade to a X470. Would rather get a 2nd hand cheaper X370 as there really isn't much difference compared to X370 chipset apart from memory compatibility as far as I have seen. XFR2 / Overclocking performance limits are built into the CPU and not directly related to the motherboard regardless if you use a 2700X on a X370 or X470. But if you have the moneys to spend I'd say go for the new X470.

Check this:
Ahh, I wasn't sure if the cpu needed to be paired with an X470/B450 chipset to unlock XFR2. With the influx of well priced X370 boards that are going to come when people start buying X470, it might be a very good opportunity to grab one.