Anybody does or know anybody that does Turbo installs?

[Qui_Illustrati]

Have this obsessive need to try and turbo my car - the reasons baffle me - I'm chalking it down to a mid-life crisis.

Anybody does or know somebody that does turbo installs including possible fabrication work that may be required for an aftermarket turbo install?

Seen tons of DIY videos that turned out quite successful, but I'd rather not buy welders and other tools that might be required
Might be worth learning the new skills - but - some things are best left to those that already know I think

Edit: Forgot to mention - I'm in Cape Town

 

[Mb12]

What car is it that you want to turbo, for interest sake? I know of someone but they specialize in Hondas (though I'm sure the skills are transferable) because I am wanting to do the same with my Accord Tourer in future.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

What car is it that you want to turbo, for interest sake? I know of someone but they specialize in Hondas (though I'm sure the skills are transferable) because I am wanting to do the same with my Accord Tourer in future.

370Z - I reckon those sort of skills aren't manufacturer dependent.

Is your guy based in CT perhaps?

 

[Mb12]

That's gonna be sweet - unfortunately not though, my guy is in Gauteng. I am sure someone here will have a contact, otherwise tuner Facebook groups might be a place to try.

On a side note, at least in my case the engine management system seems to be one of the limiting factors for a turbo upgrade.

 

[Wadkiller]

I was somehow expecting some or other 1300 where a bit more oomph was required. How wrong was I.

Is this your daily drive? There are obviously guys that get it reliable, but inevitably you are left with a vehicle that you will struggle to sell and custom work usually has custom solutions when things go wrong.

If this is not your daily and you have a proper budget then you are in for a wild ride This is not just a number of items slapped together with a few hours of labour. Doing it properly costs a lot of money. Perhaps have a chat to Rizlo, last I remember he was in PE, he has quite the thing for Nissan's.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Saw this video on Youtube - wish I hadn't

That got me wanting to turbo my car. I don't race, not in to the drag scene, don't do track, and don't intend to do any of these things. Actually always frowned upon idiots racing on national roads . . . but...still... the little boy in me just wants to go vroom vroom with some turbo sounds for absolutely no apparent reason at all

This pandemic has made many throw caution to the wind and start wanting to live life more fully perhaps That's my absolutely ridiculous justification I'm using in my head.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

I was somehow expecting some or other 1300 where a bit more oomph was required. How wrong was I.

Is this your daily drive? There are obviously guys that get it reliable, but inevitably you are left with a vehicle that you will struggle to sell and custom work usually has custom solutions when things go wrong.

If this is not your daily and you have a proper budget then you are in for a wild ride This is not just a number of items slapped together with a few hours of labour. Doing it properly costs a lot of money. Perhaps have a chat to Rizlo, last I remember he was in PE, he has quite the thing for Nissan's.

You're absolutely spot on. Definitely want to do it right. It's not my daily driver. The 370Z has an enormous amount of go in it's NA form - but... still . . . that damn youtube video

 

[Maxim]

lol -here all I wanted is a k20 swapped nc mx5..... but turbo z could be epic.

 

[Vinnige Fanie]

Saw this video on Youtube - wish I hadn't

That got me wanting to turbo my car. I don't race, not in to the drag scene, don't do track, and don't intend to do any of these things. Actually always frowned upon idiots racing on national roads . . . but...still... the little boy in me just wants to go vroom vroom with some turbo sounds for absolutely no apparent reason at all

This pandemic has made many throw caution to the wind and start wanting to live life more fully perhaps That's my absolutely ridiculous justification I'm using in my head.

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Better off probably selling your 370z and getting a Nice GTR and playing with that. Dont build what you can buy is the age old saying.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

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Better off probably selling your 370z and getting a Nice GTR and playing with that. Dont build what you can buy is the age old saying.

Where's the fun in that

I saw all the available kits - if we're being pragmatic - they're massively overpriced for what you're getting. Not to mention import costs.
All the parts available in all those kits can be locally sourced for a fraction of the price.

300+ k is way too much - I reckon I could get it done for around 60k 80k - including new injectors, fuel pump, fuel delivery system, turbo, piping, clutch upgrade, intercooler, ecutek and the other odds and bobs

 

[madness_inc]

Where's the fun in that

I saw all the available kits - if we're being pragmatic - they're massively overpriced for what you're getting. Not to mention import costs.
All the parts available in all those kits can be locally sourced for a fraction of the price.

300+ k is way too much - I reckon I could get it done for around 60k 80k - including new injectors, fuel pump, fuel delivery system, turbo, piping, clutch upgrade, intercooler and the other odds and bobs

60 to 80 is way too conservative. Double that amount at least.

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[Vinnige Fanie]

Where's the fun in that

I saw all the available kits - if we're being pragmatic - they're massively overpriced for what you're getting. Not to mention import costs.
All the parts available in all those kits can be locally sourced for a fraction of the price.

300+ k is way too much - I reckon I could get it done for around 60k - including new injectors, fuel pump, fuel delivery system, turbo, piping, clutch upgrade, intercooler and the other odds and bobs

If you use Chinese turbos and wastegates maybe yes. Have you priced GTX2871R turbos and Turbosmart or presicion wastegates?
Those alone will set you back 60k almost, Then getting all the fab work done is gonna be a pain by itself.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

If you use Chinese turbos and wastegates maybe yes. Have you priced GTX2871R turbos and Turbosmart or presicion wastegates?
Those alone will set you back 60k almost, Then getting all the fab work done is gonna be a pain by itself.

I have indeed - been researching this for weeks now Way too much time on my hand.
Mr Turbo has some great pricing on Garretts.
You're absolutely right though - the fabrication is going to be a nightmare of sorts

 

[Sorabella]

That's gonna be sweet - unfortunately not though, my guy is in Gauteng. I am sure someone here will have a contact, otherwise tuner Facebook groups might be a place to try.

On a side note, at least in my case the engine management system seems to be one of the limiting factors for a turbo upgrade.

is your guy Nash by any chance ?

 

[Sorabella]

I have indeed - been researching this for weeks now Way too much time on my hand.
Mr Turbo has some great pricing on Garretts.
You're absolutely right though - the fabrication is going to be a nightmare of sorts

you in for a treat, I have been looking at doing twin turbo 370 for about 6 months now, but I think i have finally decided to rather go the supercharger way to keep the wonderful feeling of NA

I hope you don't have the auto as its not going to handle that power very well

 

[Vilgrim]

Hello bud,

Phone the guys that know what they are doing. Guys like No Sweat Racing, MRD Minnaar Racing Development or Budler Motorsport to name but a few.

You can buy a bolt on kit for probably around R60k but that will not include management or a clutch. It will also limit you to about 0.5bar boost. If you want to go bigger turbo, higher boost and a better clutch the prices go way up because then you are talking about forged pistons, forged conrods, bigger injectors, custom exhaust manifolds, stand alone fuel management and mapping. To give you an idea,

Decent turbo min R15K
Conrods min R6K for a set
Pistons min R10k for a set
Intercooler R3k
Waste Gate R2k
Blow off valve R2k
Uprated Clutch R5k

Then you have not even touched ecu, piping, exhaust system, injectors, engineering, new gaskets and seals, gauges and labour.

If you have that kind of money, go ahead and have fun but remember horses want food, more horses more food.

 

[Sub-lime]

I have indeed - been researching this for weeks now Way too much time on my hand.
Mr Turbo has some great pricing on Garretts.
You're absolutely right though - the fabrication is going to be a nightmare of sorts

Before you take on this task research the companies, Mr Turbo, let's just say i'd rather deal with Evetech.
Personally id opt for a Supercharger on a 370Z, kits are available for this.

Iv'e built a couple turbo cars and all i can say is don't skimp and never opt for aftermarket ecu unless you're willing to go Haltech and have Wi-Fi tuning done. i've tried all the local brands (Dastek, MrTurbo, Dicktator, PP XMS5B) and all returned crap fuelling especially since they don't support true sequential fuelling. on the same note if you do go turbo, get an ebay turbo and call it a day.

i have BW, Garrets, Mr Turbo brands and ebay and although there is definitely a quality difference between the oem brands the ebays have made good power and lasted long. check out BoostedBoiz on youtube, they run ebay turbos and have made 700+ hp cars with good reliability.

More power = more parts breaking. You will need brake upgrades firstly and a the list starts going up.

 

[Dom]

370Z - I reckon those sort of skills aren't manufacturer dependent.

Is your guy based in CT perhaps?

Do a twin turbo

 

[Sub-lime]

Too add.

Get a good quality kit that offers stages.
you don't need to go for an additional 300hp out the box, enjoy the stages.

you will be surprised what a good stage 1 s/c kit will offer. s/c + full pipe + tune
Look at running Water Meth kit too, keep it a low mix to keep it safe as it burns clear. you smell your boot burning but you dont see much lol.

W/M keeps the engine clean, low Engine and EGT and obviously the benefit of the power increase.

 

[Dom]

Have this obsessive need to try and turbo my car - the reasons baffle me - I'm chalking it down to a mid-life crisis.

Anybody does or know somebody that does turbo installs including possible fabrication work that may be required for an aftermarket turbo install?

Seen tons of DIY videos that turned out quite successful, but I'd rather not buy welders and other tools that might be required
Might be worth learning the new skills - but - some things are best left to those that already know I think

Edit: Forgot to mention - I'm in Cape Town

We need to know your age to determine this

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

you in for a treat, I have been looking at doing twin turbo 370 for about 6 months now, but I think i have finally decided to rather go the supercharger way to keep the wonderful feeling of NA

I hope you don't have the auto as its not going to handle that power very well

Nope..manual thankfully. Was also looking at the remote mount twin turbo...but I reckon lag might be a bitch. Quite an unorthodox config, passable though IMO

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Before you take on this task research the companies, Mr Turbo, let's just say i'd rather deal with Evetech.
Personally id opt for a Supercharger on a 370Z, kits are available for this.

Iv'e built a couple turbo cars and all i can say is don't skimp and never opt for aftermarket ecu unless you're willing to go Haltech and have Wi-Fi tuning done. i've tried all the local brands (Dastek, MrTurbo, Dicktator, PP XMS5B) and all returned crap fuelling especially since they don't support true sequential fuelling. on the same note if you do go turbo, get an ebay turbo and call it a day.

i have BW, Garrets, Mr Turbo brands and ebay and although there is definitely a quality difference between the oem brands the ebays have made good power and lasted long. check out BoostedBoiz on youtube, they run ebay turbos and have made 700+ hp cars with good reliability.

More power = more parts breaking. You will need brake upgrades firstly and a the list starts going up.

Thanks. Some solid advice.

 

[Mb12]

is your guy Nash by any chance ?

No he's not, but you can PM me your guy's details if he is in Gauteng. I'd like to consult as many informed people as possible for my project.

 

[Skalabala]

You will need R200K for this. The engine is plagued with false knock harmonics. Cant cheap out on anything on the build.

 

[Skalabala]

No he's not, but you can PM me your guy's details if he is in Gauteng. I'd like to consult as many informed people as possible for my project.

You only need to upgrade your stock ECU and map sensor.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

You will need R200K for this. The engine is plagued with false knock harmonics. Cant cheap out on anything on the build.

Highly doubt it. There exists 370Z Turbo kits for less than that and like I previously mentioned, all pre-existing kits specific to the 370Z can be broken down and sourced locally for much less. All moving parts - that is. Piping is piping - just need somebody good for the plumbing.

Appreciate the input though.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

you in for a treat, I have been looking at doing twin turbo 370 for about 6 months now, but I think i have finally decided to rather go the supercharger way to keep the wonderful feeling of NA

I hope you don't have the auto as its not going to handle that power very well

I'd consider the supercharger route as well. It was in fact my initial preference. Had a look at the Stillen kit for the 370z. exorbitantly priced of course.
Do you have any local leads for compatible superchargers?

 

[donsterza]

Space is a bit of an issue with these afaik, my friend was going to do rear mount turbo's on his but nothing ever came of it . I would think twice before doing this, a couple of S2000 owners have done it and you end up with more headaches than actually being able to use the car, I was told by one owner on a breakfast run that boosting his car was the biggest mistake, he so rarely got to enjoy it because of issues and he didnt exactly cheap out on the build. It would be a pitty to go from having an enjoyable car with ample usable power to constantly monitoring temps, worrying about boost pipes popping off and all the rest that comes when boosting an NA car
It does not always end up in headaches, but it often does.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Space is a bit of an issue with these afaik, my friend was going to do rear mount turbo's on his but nothing ever came of it . I would think twice before doing this, a couple of S2000 owners have done it and you end up with more headaches than actually being able to use the car, I was told by one owner on a breakfast run that boosting his car was the biggest mistake, he so rarely got to enjoy it because of issues and he didnt exactly cheap out on the build. It would be a pitty to go from having an enjoyable car with ample usable power to constantly monitoring temps, worrying about boost pipes popping off and all the rest that comes when boosting an NA car
It does not always end up in headaches, but it often does.

Very true. Space is indeed an issue. Little to no space in the engine bay for a single turbo without compromising something like A/C. Rear mount dual turbos are iffy at worst, borderline passable at best. Mid mount single or even dual seems the most accommodating option for the Z's. Single the better mid mount option than the duals, because, yet again, space issues near the transmission. Duals are do-able though.
If done right, with proper considerations, a single mid mount turbo should yield some amazing results I reckon.

Great point, in it's current NA form it's an absolute thrill to ride, would indeed be a pity to slap on an ill-formed turbo plan and compromise the current drive pleasure.

I still, however, think, if done right, it would definitely enhance the experience somewhat.

 

[donsterza]

It also depends what you want from the car, are you into track days or do you want to do highway pulls, for the latter obviously boost is the way, for the track other mods will yeild much better results for the money. And you've got that dense air down there, leave it NA or SC man...