Amd 3900x vs Intel 9900k

[JollyJamma]

3800X with 3600Mhz RAM (what I'd rather aim for) will destroy the well-priced part a little though haha.

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[SCHUMI4EVER]

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Always been partial to RGB-less LP Vengeance sticks, so I'd hope Corsair do a kit of them for Ryzen.

But then I guess all the top speed RAM is RGB-only these days so I'll keep an eye on that G.Skill.

 

[Rickster]

Jayz2cents did a vid recently saying that some of the cores sit on 0% load during a multi threaded optimised game.

So unless you doing VM's, rendering and gaming at the same time I wouldn't get the new high end AMD's.

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

Jayz2cents did a vid recently saying that some of the cores sit on 0% load during a multi threaded optimised game.

So unless you doing VM's, rendering and gaming at the same time I wouldn't get the new high end AMD's.

I reckon the same is true of Intel's multicores past 4 as well though?
And that could change down the line and at that point things would look VERY different.

That said how multi-core optimised you can make a game depends on how modular the code itself is and we're also kinda already at the limits of how far mutli-threading can take us in games it seems.


Fucking VMProtect should be appeased by having 89 cores though.

 

[M@tree2]

Exactly. AMD has a very buggy product out that’s still sticking it to Intel yet some updates later, I reckon AMD will be really good.

Meanwhile, Intel keeps refining 14nm and trying to tell people that their “new” products are entirely worthwhile and justify the huge overhead.

And Intel fanboys, don’t tell me they cost the same, AMD provides a cooler with their processors, and we all know how stupid the TDP ratings are on Intels products so you can’t not spend at least R950 to cool a 9700K/9900K.

CM Hyper 612 on my processor never goes above 55*c, just have ample ventilation and good thermal paste.

 

[JollyJamma]

CM Hyper 612 on my processor never goes above 55*c, just have ample ventilation and good thermal paste.

You missed the point.

 

[M@tree2]

You missed the point.

No, I didn't. Berating a seller for not providing something. It is at their discretion.
And let's be honest, when you are buying a 3700x or 3900x you are probably going to buy a cooler anyway, only on the lower end where having a stock cooler is an "attraction"

My point was that you don't need to spend over R900 on a cooler for an Intel CPU, you missed that!
Obviously, I wouldn't go and put a stock cooler on, but just put something semi-decent on.
If you are going to OC, then yes, spend the R1000+ on a cooler by all means.

For a non-oc setup, the following would be applicable, it's NOT R950. It would also provide sufficient cooling.

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EDIT:
Disclaimer, most reviews I have read about the AMD cooler is that it is only worth its weight in sand.
(Not very useful).

 

[JollyJamma]

No, I didn't. Berating a seller for not providing something. It is at their discretion.
And let's be honest, when you are buying a 3700x or 3900x you are probably going to buy a cooler anyway, only on the lower end where having a stock cooler is an "attraction"

My point was that you don't need to spend over R900 on a cooler for an Intel CPU, you missed that!
Obviously, I wouldn't go and put a stock cooler on, but just put something semi-decent on.
If you are going to OC, then yes, spend the R1000+ on a cooler by all means.

For a non-oc setup, the following would be applicable, it's NOT R950. It would also provide sufficient cooling.

Cooler Master MAP-T6PN-218PC-R1 MasterAir MA610P Dual RGB 120mm Fan CPU Cooler - Wootware

Buy Cooler Master MAP-T6PN-218PC-R1 MasterAir MA610P Dual RGB 120mm Fan CPU Cooler at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.

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EDIT:
Disclaimer, most reviews I have read about the AMD cooler is that it is only worth its weight in sand.
(Not very useful).

1) this is the reply you should have responded with
2) If you're buying a 9900K, you really do need to spend R1000+ on a cooler.
3) The cooler you should buy is this Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 140mm Black PWM Aluminium & Copper Dual-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler - Wootware as it has insane cooling capacity
4) I will admit that the stock cooler for AMD isn't good but it *would* suffice. Intels stock cooler won't work for even a mid range CPU.

 

[M@tree2]

1) this is the reply you should have responded with
2) If you're buying a 9900K, you really do need to spend R1000+ on a cooler.
3) The cooler you should buy is this Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 140mm Black PWM Aluminium & Copper Dual-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler - Wootware as it has insane cooling capacity
4) I will admit that the stock cooler for AMD isn't good but it *would* suffice. Intels stock cooler won't work for even a mid range CPU.

9900k yes, but 9700k sort of.
9900KS, you should just buy a custom loop 😂.

 

[JollyJamma]

Watch this video and you can save a ton of money on the motherboard and put the money to a better AMD CPU

B450 Tomahawk + 3700X + 16 gigs Neo 3600 CL14 + 212X = win!!!

 

[Sabreme]

Just read this article from Tom's hardware. Its definitely worth a good read. In terms of raw gaming performance, Intel now has a slight rule.

But overall, AMD finally wins solidly in my opinion. Lots of
overall power and cheaper.


Hete is the link.

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X vs Intel Core i9-9900K: Which CPU Is Better?

We pit AMD’s new 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X flagship CPU against Intel’s 8-core Core i9-9900K. Can Zen 2 beat Intel’s current top-end mainstream chip?

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[PancakesZA]

So do I go for a 3900X and sell my 9900K setup?
I can't make up my mind, hopefully you guys can help me decide,

 

[Valheru]

So do I go for a 3900X and sell my 9900K setup?
I can't make up my mind, hopefully you guys can help me decide,

If I was in your shoes I would wait for the 3950x, that 9900K is still a beast.

This is based on the assumption that the 3950x would receive the best binning and would therefore be an allround better offering.

 

[reactor_sa]

So do I go for a 3900X and sell my 9900K setup?
I can't make up my mind, hopefully you guys can help me decide,

For gaming and Photoshop, there's the 9900k. For everything else, there's AMD. [emoji14]

I just want to see a review that says for different levels of GPU, which CPU is the minimum without bottlenecking.

 

[Dewpyx]

I'm gonna do 4790k to 3600, seems like a no brainer cause the 3600 sits between the 7700k and 8700k in gaming while shitting all over it in mulithreaded stuff.

I assume the 3900x is similar but better. Between those 2 I'd pick 3900x but I'd rather go 3700x imo.

 

[Valheru]

I'm gonna do 4790k to 3600, seems like a no brainer cause the 3600 sits between the 7700k and 8700k in gaming while shitting all over it in mulithreaded stuff.

I assume the 3900x is similar but better. Between those 2 I'd pick 3900x but I'd rather go 3700x imo.

Just have a look here too before you jump all in:

 

[Fishfly]

So do I go for a 3900X and sell my 9900K setup?
I can't make up my mind, hopefully you guys can help me decide,

LMAO so if you have the bucks keep the 9900k and get the 3950x

I'm moving from a 4790 so any upgrade will be worthwhile

Right now I'm favouring the 9900k due to all the component being available i.e monoblock, micro atx board, cpu

Yes in terms of performance 3900x is the logical one but 4k boards and no micro atx is the limiting factor

Maybe in the next 3-6 months there will be matx boards and it would be cheaper.

In all honesty the reviews are comparing apples against pears: Intel 8 core 16 threads vs AMD's 12core 24 threads

Seems to me AMD did an extremely excellent job catching up to Intel - Reality 7nm vs 14nm second apple vs pear debate.

So quick question why does everyone review the CPU's on 1080 rez? Aren't they suppose to test the 4k?

 

[M@tree2]

Or you can wait for theses BEASTS to be released:

I7-10700k

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Intel 10th Generation Core "Comet Lake" Lineup Detailed

Intel's short-term reaction to AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen processor family is the 10th generation Core "Comet Lake." These processors are based on existing "Skylake" cores, but have core-counts increased at the top-end, and HyperThreading enabled across the entire lineup. The Core i3 series are...

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Yes, they are just leaks, but let's be honest IF that pricing is correct, then it will be a tough call. Those clock speeds on the 10 series chip IF correct are going to be insane.

 

[M@tree2]

Intel 10th Gen 'Comet Lake' CPU Lineup 'Alleged' Specifications:

Processor Name	Process Node	Cores / Threads	Base Clock	Boost Clock (Single Core)	Graphics	Cache	TDP	Price
Intel Core i9-10900KF	14nm+++	10/20	3.4 GHz	5.2 GHz	N/A	20 MB	105W	$499 US
Intel Core i9-10900F	14nm+++	10/20	3.2 GHz	5.1 GHz	N/A	20 MB	95W	$449 US
Intel Core i9-10800F	14nm+++	10/20	2.7 GHz	5.0 GHz	N/A	20 MB	65W	$409 US
Intel Core i7-10700K	14nm+++	8/16	3.6 GHz	5.1 GHz	UHD 730	16 MB	95W	$339 US
Intel Core i7-10700	14nm+++	8/16	3,1 GHz	4.9 GHz	UHD 730	16 MB	65W
Intel Core i5-10600K	14nm+++	6/12	3.7 GHz	4.9 GHz	UHD 730	12 MB	95W	$269 US
Intel Core i5-10600	14nm+++	6/12	3.2 GHz	4.8 GHz	UHD 730	12 MB	65W	$229 US
Intel Core i5-10500	14nm+++	6/12	3.1 GHz	4.6 GHz	UHD 730	12 MB	65W	$199 US
Intel Core i5-10400	14nm+++	6/12	3.0 GHz	4.4 GHz	UHD 730	12 MB	65W	$179 US
Intel Core i3-10350K	14nm+++	4/8	4.1 GHz	4.8 GHz	UHD 730	9 MB	91W	$179 US
Intel Core i3-10320	14nm+++	4/8	4.0 GHz	4.7 GHz	UHD 730	9 MB	91W	$159 US
Intel Core i3-10300	14nm+++	4/8	3.8 GHz	4.5 GHz	UHD 730	9 MB	62W	$149 US
Intel Core i3-10100	14nm+++	4/8	3.7 GHz	4.4 GHz	UHD 730	7 MB	62W	$129 US

As taken from:

Intel's 10th Gen 'Comet Lake' Desktop CPU Lineup Allegedly Leaks Out - Core i9-10900KF Flagship With 10 Cores, 20 Threads, 5.2 GHz Boost at $499 US, 8 Cores Start at $339 US, 6 Cores at $179 US

It looks like Intel's entire 10th Generation 'Comet Lake' CPU lineup has allegedly leaked out along with specifications of 13 different SKUs.

wccftech.com

 

[Psynosaur]

Amd🤮🤮🤮

NIe almal kan so baie wen handteer nie. . .

lolz

 

[Valheru]

Intel 10th Gen 'Comet Lake' CPU Lineup 'Alleged' Specifications:
As taken from:

Intel's 10th Gen 'Comet Lake' Desktop CPU Lineup Allegedly Leaks Out - Core i9-10900KF Flagship With 10 Cores, 20 Threads, 5.2 GHz Boost at $499 US, 8 Cores Start at $339 US, 6 Cores at $179 US

It looks like Intel's entire 10th Generation 'Comet Lake' CPU lineup has allegedly leaked out along with specifications of 13 different SKUs.

wccftech.com

I wish that it be true, but I suspect that someone took creative freedom with rumours, eg, take that 10-core 10900KF.
- Nottefok it will be "only" $500
- TDP is far too low - I call bullshit (TDP should be 180W+)
- 20MB cache looks to be too low, someone took 9900K + 2 cores
- 14nm+++ looks like an inside joke, intel is rumoured not to have a sense of humor
- 1159 pin-out - I read conflicting info that it will be a 1200

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[M@tree2]

I wish that it be true, but I suspect that someone took creative freedom with rumours, eg, take that 10-core 10900KF.
- Nottefok it will be "only" $500
- TDP is far too low - I call bullshit (TDP should be 180W+)
- 20MB cache looks to be too low, someone took 9900K + 2 cores
- 14nm+++ looks like an inside joke, intel is rumoured not to have a sense of humor
- 1159 pin-out - I read conflicting info that it will be a 1200

匿名讀者來信 : Comet Lake 不是 1159 支針！是有更多

繼昨日網上流傳出 INTEL 下一代處理器 Comet Lake 的資料後，XF 收到匿名讀者來信指，資料真實性只有一...

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Maybe AMD has forced their pricing hand.
Will have to wait and see.
Would be stupid to have a socket for 1 generation though.

 

[Valheru]

Maybe AMD has forced their pricing hand.
Will have to wait and see.
Would be stupid to have a socket for 1 generation though.

Nah, I believe AMD is sandbagging slightly, they have not yet shown their full hand.

Its Intel, I doubt they considered our feelings when changing sockets/platforms.

 

[reactor_sa]

The value in R5 3600 plus B450 is insane. In Oz we can get a R5 3600 plus very good B450 for less than the price of a i7 9700k (9700k is ZAR5,200 on it's own).
Then put the savings into upgrade to the next tier of GPU. That makes the most sense if you're chasing FPS.

 

[JollyJamma]

This is relevant to all peeple looking at the new AMD products

There are new revisions of the B450 boards coming out with bigger BIOS chips so they can handle all of the new AMD chips.

 

[JollyJamma]

So do I go for a 3900X and sell my 9900K setup?
I can't make up my mind, hopefully you guys can help me decide,

No. AMD is only helpful for people who are looking to upgrade from a 3770, 4790, 6700 etc

You have a great chip. Carry on using it.

 

[PancakesZA]

Thanks for all the replies guys.
Honestly, boredom is my greatest enemy. I'm quite bored of my current setup and I do want to move away from a full sized rig. Possibly go for an itx setup. I may have the opportunity to sell my current machine for 90% of it's value. The only part I'd be keeping is my Strix OC 1080Ti.

Guess I'll wait for stock to become available and then make up my mind.

 

[PancakesZA]

 

[SILTECH786]

No brainer 3900x is a beast yes I am still an intel boy but the above video changes alot of things and for good reason too

 

[PancakesZA]