Advise to help me advance my Career

[Byakugan]

no longer needed

Regards
Delwin

 

[GamerZee]

Hi, I'm just curious what qualifications do you have currently?

 

[HK-Kid]

Had a look at your profile. With your education level you are doing pretty well better than most would do, to be honest. Consider yourself lucky........

 

[Byakugan]

Hi, I'm just curious what qualifications do you have currently?

Unfortunately all I have is a MCSA, I never saw the value in finishing the MCSE since its just working on servers. This year I am going to do a CCNA and Prince2 courses since I already work in those areas.

Next year I am hoping to start towards getting a BACH Degree in Informatics as from what I can gather the lack of a degree is what is holding me back from growing. Regardless of the knowledge and skill I have.

 

[Byakugan]

Had a look at your profile. With your education level you are doing pretty well better than most would do, to be honest. Consider yourself lucky........

So would gaining more skills through experience be pretty useless in growing me further? Would a bach degree be what I need to move beyond administrator and towards Technical / IT Manager?

 

[HK-Kid]

So would gaining more skills through experience be pretty useless in growing me further? Would a bach degree be what I need to move beyond administrator and towards Technical / IT Manager?

In any situation experience and education go hand in hand. I think you know what you have to do

 

[souljazk]

My cynical 2 cents is that most IT managers are not too technical BUT they get $ to take the heaps of kak that can come with corporate.

By the sounds of it, the subculture in the IT dept is lacking. I'd speak to HR, not in a bratty way but more of "a team needs to work together to make progress" way.

CCNA is good, def the right direction. I'd remove that dudes salary... If they ever see this you can get fired VERY easily. He might even get in kak as generally, you sign a contract saying you won't tell anyone your salary...

Perhaps look at ITIL and some free online Harvard / Stanford Management/leadership courses.

 

[souljazk]

So would gaining more skills through experience be pretty useless in growing me further? Would a bach degree be what I need to move beyond administrator and towards Technical / IT Manager?

I look at it this way - I learn and then I apply. There are things I learn in books that change my 'filter' and allow me to see things/people differently. Do you read any management/leadership/ business books?

 

[Sunshine]

My cynical 2 cents is that most IT managers are not too technical BUT they get $ to take the heaps of kak that can come with corporate.

If you change cynical to realistic, this is correct.

During the day I am the IT manager of a school, which means I do technical stuff due to the small size, but a lot of time is managing service providers as well. My week is usually 1/5 technical and 4/5 management. This is just because it's a school and I have to wear many hats.

After hours though, in my consulting work, I spend a lot of time speaking with decision makers, helping with the process between IT guys and management. I have even seen situations where IT Managers are a 2-3/10 on technical knowledge.

The career path is no longer Helpdesk/Tech -> Engineer -> Manager -> C-Level

If you enjoy technical and do not enjoy people, do not become a manager. You will hate it

 

[Byakugan]

My cynical 2 cents is that most IT managers are not too technical BUT they get $ to take the heaps of kak that can come with corporate.

By the sounds of it, the subculture in the IT dept is lacking. I'd speak to HR, not in a bratty way but more of "a team needs to work together to make progress" way.

CCNA is good, def the right direction. I'd remove that dudes salary... If they ever see this you can get fired VERY easily. He might even get in kak as generally, you sign a contract saying you won't tell anyone your salary...

Perhaps look at ITIL and some free online Harvard / Stanford Management/leadership courses.

I think I am ready to tak that crap from corporate, if the position I am in already has me dealing with this.So what can I do to make myself more marketable to other companies so that I can get these roles.

Agreed I have removed his salary and will tone down the whining bit in the beginning too.

 

[KiLLRoY]

I've recently started looking at this as well, in a similar role as you just a bit younger. Have a couple of certs like MCSA, the Comptia crap, CCNA and some other things, have my NSE4 scheduled for next month.

First thing to do is go look on PNet for positions you would want to move to, look at the educational requirements. Open like 30 of the ones you would be interested in and find the most common educational requirements, this gives you a good idea of what you need.

I've found that a degree is required when you want to move into most full on management roles. You can however get into some of these with strong certs and especially something like ITIL

Having a great technical foundation with a degree and a couple of extra certs will get you most of the ways there, after you attain all of these it will come down to your management skills in which you are already gaining experience.

 

[KiLLRoY]

I can't ever see myself being able to take the kind of crap that ie my manager has to put up with. You do however get management roles which are more technically focused than others, ie something like an infrastructure manager in my head would have to deal with much less red tape then something like a IT manager who's responsible for everything that plugs in

 

[OuTBreaK]

Wish I would get that salary, i'm into auto teller machines, hardware and software side and banking systems and I don't get close to that.

 

[atunguyd]

If you want to become a a project manager then do the prince course but it will do nothing for you if you want to become a people manager. That requires more soft than hard skills. You need to look at leadership type courses.

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[Priapus]

I'd remove that dudes salary... If they ever see this you can get fired VERY easily. He might even get in kak as generally, you sign a contract saying you won't tell anyone your salary...

Most employers will have something in the contract to say you cannot tell another employee. However this is not enforceable and the CCMA will back the employee in such cases.
Go look at the MyBB thread where people list their salaries - you think they all get into shit for it?

 

[souljazk]

Most employers will have something in the contract to say you cannot tell another employee. However this is not enforceable and the CCMA will back the employee in such cases.
Go look at the MyBB thread where people list their salaries - you think they all get into shit for it?

Yes its fine to share YOUR salary, he shared someone elses salary, most likely without their consent.

 

[Priapus]

Yes its fine to share YOUR salary, he shared someone elses salary, most likely without their consent.

Unless he listed their full name and ID number, it's meaningless and hearsay (Unless he provided payslip). I also highly doubt there is anything anyone could do about that.

I could tell you that a dev that works with me, earning 150k p/m. But that info is meaningless unless I gave you personal info and evidence.