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hey guys n gals..

need some advice, i need to put in a sub prepaid meter into the cottage at the back.. but cant seem to figure it all out.. does anyone have any experience with it?

i see theres so many different makes, citiq, the meter man, meter mate, recharger just to name a few, prices vary by quite a bit.. does anyone know the difference between them, which one offers the best service, the most reasonable rates, which one to stay away from.. i see you can pick up on takealot for R199


where as the citiq from the hardware was quoting R850.. why the big diff in price..

thanks for any advice..
 

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It didn't, total was R1700 including installation.

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Which area you stay in?

If you are in and around eastrand area i can assist if you have the hardware?
 

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Do you absolutely need a prepaid meter? Do they currently use electricity routing from the main house?
What you can do is install a Wh meter in the DB panel, we've got a Lear DDS-1Y. You can then check once a month what the usage was and charge accordingly.
 

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There are 2x CitiQ meters on the property where I live. For what they are, they work well: tenant buys vouchers via CitiQ for elec usage; CitiQ pays landlord less service charge. What the vouchers cost SHOULD be based on the proper electricity rate, but since it's a private company this is something that can be fudged so the landlord makes money off electricity (totally illegal, but it happens).

One thing I will say is that they're trivial to bypass. But that would be pretty obvious when you get the elec bill, and nothing from CitiQ.
 

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Which area you stay in?

If you are in and around eastrand area i can assist if you have the hardware?

kensington, kind of the eastrand..

what hardware? just the prepaid meter? thats my issue, i dont know which one to buy... R200 one from takealot.. the citiq one for R800.. theres a place in edenvale selling one for R450, they called kk prepaid...
 

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Do you absolutely need a prepaid meter? Do they currently use electricity routing from the main house?
What you can do is install a Wh meter in the DB panel, we've got a Lear DDS-1Y. You can then check once a month what the usage was and charge accordingly.

would prefer it as i hardly see them.. and i dont want a fuss if the bill is too high.. they must just manage it on their own.. they currently using electricity from the main house yes.. some months the bill is really high, and i dont know if its me or them..
 

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There are 2x CitiQ meters on the property where I live. For what they are, they work well: tenant buys vouchers via CitiQ for elec usage; CitiQ pays landlord less service charge. What the vouchers cost SHOULD be based on the proper electricity rate, but since it's a private company this is something that can be fudged so the landlord makes money off electricity (totally illegal, but it happens).

One thing I will say is that they're trivial to bypass. But that would be pretty obvious when you get the elec bill, and nothing from CitiQ.


thanks, im not looking to make any money.. just want whats fair, but ive read a few complaints with some companies charging excessively.. like tenant buys electricity for R500 but they get ony R400 worth due to charges.. i dont want to rip of the tenant, i want the best deal for them...
 

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would prefer it as i hardly see them.. and i dont want a fuss if the bill is too high.. they must just manage it on their own.. they currently using electricity from the main house yes.. some months the bill is really high, and i dont know if its me or them..
You could always install 2 meters. 1 in the house for the cottage's power and 1 in the cottage for their auditing. That way you can also agree that both should be reading the same, then you just check your's at the end of the month.
 

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You could always install 2 meters. 1 in the house for the cottage's power and 1 in the cottage for their auditing. That way you can also agree that both should be reading the same, then you just check your's at the end of the month.

that is true, i will keep that option open.. but again, i'd prefer not to have the contact with them, they very private people and so are we.. but if i dont figure out this sub meter i will look into this option.. any idea what these wh meters go for?
 

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thanks, im not looking to make any money.. just want whats fair, but ive read a few complaints with some companies charging excessively.. like tenant buys electricity for R500 but they get ony R400 worth due to charges.. i dont want to rip of the tenant, i want the best deal for them...
In my case, it works out to R1.80/unit for the first R900 worth. So a very competitive rate as far as prepaid goes. I believe the CitiQ service charge is around 7%, so landlord should be getting around R1.67/unit.

This is what the municipal bill looks like:
Step 1 558.522 kWh @ R 1.3408 ( Billing Period 2020/06 ) Step 2 558.521 kWh @ R 1.5387 Step 3 159.957 kWh @ R 1.6522

So no scalping happening here, given that there's also a network charge the landlord is paying for. It will roughly break even, but no one is really making/losing money on elec (except CitiQ).
 

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that is true, i will keep that option open.. but again, i'd prefer not to have the contact with them, they very private people and so are we.. but if i dont figure out this sub meter i will look into this option.. any idea what these wh meters go for?
One of those probably goes around R200-R300. Yeah it's bit of a mission to send them a different bill every month, but easy peasy to just email it. Tell them upfront what you're charging them, R1.3 per kWh or whatever it may be.
 

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In my case, it works out to R1.80/unit for the first R900 worth. So a very competitive rate as far as prepaid goes. I believe the CitiQ service charge is around 7%, so landlord should be getting around R1.67/unit.

This is what the municipal bill looks like:
Step 1 558.522 kWh @ R 1.3408 ( Billing Period 2020/06 ) Step 2 558.521 kWh @ R 1.5387 Step 3 159.957 kWh @ R 1.6522

So no scalping happening here, given that there's also a network charge the landlord is paying for. It will roughly break even, but no one is really making/losing money on elec (except CitiQ).


thanks, appreciate it..
 

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hey guys n gals..

need some advice, i need to put in a sub prepaid meter into the cottage at the back.. but cant seem to figure it all out.. does anyone have any experience with it?

i see theres so many different makes, citiq, the meter man, meter mate, recharger just to name a few, prices vary by quite a bit.. does anyone know the difference between them, which one offers the best service, the most reasonable rates, which one to stay away from.. i see you can pick up on takealot for R199


where as the citiq from the hardware was quoting R850.. why the big diff in price..

thanks for any advice..
Try JKNV Energy Prepaid Meters, they are very friendly and explain everything. They will set the rate and register, supply, installation, everything. It's a one stop solution
 

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Thanks will check them out.. Have you used them?

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get Coj to let you know about installing a second meter, had sub meters on rental property was just too much of a pain. With COJ able to do secondary or split meters now will opt for that over anything else.

Remember sub-meter company levies a charge for vending the electricity and charges yourself and the tenant for it.
 

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