Advice on RTX 3060 Ti LHR, Riser cards and HDMI dummy emulators

[FunkyMonk]

Hey Guys

I am looking for some advice/help and hope i have posted this in the right place.

I am in the process of ordering 4x Palit RTX3060TI 3060 Ti OC v1 LHR cards.

I went for them over 6x 1660 supers because theyre much stronger on ither algos according to whattomine. I would just like some confirmation that i havent made the worst decision ever here?

Then I wanted to know if it's necessary to get hdmi dummy ghost emulators to unlock hashing potential to say around 45Mh/s on Eth or was that only with RTX 3060 FHR cards using a specific driver version? Would the hdmi dummy plugs increase stability and prevent crashes etc? Or will i not need them at all?

The third thing is what riser cards to get? Hashrate.co.za has what looks to be pretty decent ones for R199 and they recommended them for use with the RTX 3060 Ti. However there are ones that look to be of higher quality and have 8 capacitors instead of 4 for R399. I was wondering if there is any significant difference or will the cheaper ones be good enough?

Thanks in advance, i really appreciate any advice/guidance/help on the subject.

Regards
FM

 

[dk27]

Hey Guys

I am looking for some advice/help and hope i have posted this in the right place.

I am in the process of ordering 4x Palit RTX3060TI 3060 Ti OC v1 LHR cards.

I went for them over 6x 1660 supers because theyre much stronger on ither algos according to whattomine. I would just like some confirmation that i havent made the worst decision ever here?

Then I wanted to know if it's necessary to get hdmi dummy ghost emulators to unlock hashing potential to say around 45Mh/s on Eth or was that only with RTX 3060 FHR cards using a specific driver version? Would the hdmi dummy plugs increase stability and prevent crashes etc? Or will i not need them at all?

The third thing is what riser cards to get? Hashrate.co.za has what looks to be pretty decent ones for R199 and they recommended them for use with the RTX 3060 Ti. However there are ones that look to be of higher quality and have 8 capacitors instead of 4 for R399. I was wondering if there is any significant difference or will the cheaper ones be good enough?

Thanks in advance, i really appreciate any advice/guidance/help on the subject.

Regards
FM

Hey
Risers - R199 ones have worked fine for me regardless of the card type, of 8 risers none have died on me in 8 months, your mileage may vary.

If you can’t find dummy HDMI plugs which I think you will need, then plug an hdmi cable into the 2x gpus, I think this works according to Reddit

I have not used any LHR cards so not sure of all the necessary workarounds to max the hash.
I have a palit gaming oc 3090 and it gets blazing hot like all 3090s but has a smaller heat sink than most cards and backplate gets too hot to touch, otherwise a good card.

 

[Confucius]

Hi

I went for them over 6x 1660 supers because theyre much stronger on ither algos according to whattomine. I would just like some confirmation that i havent made the worst decision ever here?

Yes, that’s a good move. The 3060ti is twice as strong as the 1660 in everything other than eth or eth related. I’ve got 3 lhr versions, 1 doing raven and the other 2 on eth.

Then I wanted to know if it's necessary to get hdmi dummy ghost emulators to unlock hashing potential to say around 45Mh/s on Eth or was that only with RTX 3060 FHR cards using a specific driver version? Would the hdmi dummy plugs increase stability and prevent crashes etc? Or will i not need them at all?

You don’t need the dummy plugs in these and they work fine on any standard 1 to 16 riser. It’s just the 3060 v1 that needed the hdmi plug and the minimum pcie 8 to 16 riser and a pcie gen 3 slot.

The cheaper riser works fine but try to stay away from the sata type and most importantly, don’t try to cut cost on the psu and try to run too many splitters of the same pcie power cable.

Just a note, to get the 45 MH on eth, you need to run the latest nbminer. The cards use a lot more power, around 165w as opposed to the 130w for the v1 3060 ti. The overclocks are also not as stable and the miner often restarts. I’ve just set mine up for a few days now and still playing around with the settings.

Let me know if you need any other info.

 

[FunkyMonk]

Awesome thanks guys, Ill stay away from the 6pin to sata adapters then as I have also read that they're a bad idea everywhere I look. I'll be running 4 of the Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual OC V1 LHR Editions with 120GB SSD, 8GB DDR4 Ram, Asus Rog strix B460-F Gaming on a Corsair HX1200 80+ Platinum. Would one PCIe cable be able to power both the riser and the card without any issues? Might have to get a splitter. Alternatively could I use 1 PCIe cable from PSU for the GPU and another for the riser card? I think it has 8 PCIe connectors there are enough connectors for 4 GPUs and 4 risers.

 

[dk27]

Alternatively could I use 1 PCIe cable from PSU for the GPU and another for the riser card? I think it has 8 PCIe connectors there are enough connectors for 4 GPUs and 4 risers.

Ideally that is the way.

Each pci cable will give you 150w - enough for your gpu, then use a separate pci which you can split into two to power two risers (or just one each).

If your card needs more than 150 watts/needs two 8pins then you should use two separate pci cables, not one cable that is split into two 8pins.
Your psu may shut off if there’s too much draw on one cable.

 

[Confucius]

Once you get it up and running, you can use gpuz to check how much power is being drawn from the pci slot as well as each pcie power connector.

For the 3060ti, you should be able to use 1 cable even if it has 2 power connectors. Just make sure your overclocks are set correctly. As mentioned, you are looking at around 160-170w to get the 45mh on eth. Raven is similar.

Some of that power is coming from the pci slot but please double check your card once it’s ready.

The Corsair 1200w has a setting for a single rail so each cable isn’t checked. I’ve seen a few where the connector just melts because of overload. Recently purchase one like that.

 

[FunkyMonk]

Hey Guys

Thanks again for the help. So im thinking of using a samller PSU for Mobo, SSD and CPU then the 1200w for the 4 cards and risers wth 4 PCIe cables (one for each card) plus another 2 PCIe cables for the 4 risers.

@Vassen Could you further explain what you said about the option between single or multiple 12V rails? Which should I use or avoid using as I dont want anything melting or catching a light haha.

 

[dk27]

Hey Guys

Thanks again for the help. So im thinking of using a samller PSU for Mobo, SSD and CPU then the 1200w for the 4 cards and risers wth 4 PCIe cables (one for each card) plus another 2 PCIe cables for the 4 risers.

sounds good, like <500w?

you can pick up various splitters from Romtech if you need, only place I found early on that had them

 

[Confucius]

Hey Guys

Thanks again for the help. So im thinking of using a samller PSU for Mobo, SSD and CPU then the 1200w for the 4 cards and risers wth 4 PCIe cables (one for each card) plus another 2 PCIe cables for the 4 risers.

@Vassen Could you further explain what you said about the option between single or multiple 12V rails? Which should I use or avoid using as I dont want anything melting or catching a light haha.

Most mid range power suppliers have multiple 12v rails, meaning if you have 600w and there 3 rails, each would be able to supply 200w.

With a single rail, all 600w are available from any or a combination of rails so less is wasted in this case.

I use them in single rail mode and make sure I don’t exceed the 150w on each 8 pin on the psu side, not the GPU side. Often, you have 1 connector on the psu side and 2 on the other. This whole cable is still rated for 150w. Some people tend to believe that there’s 2 connectors on the GPU side of the cable so each can give 150w.

You can load the Corsair software after you plug in the usb connector and you can see the details.

Just one note, if you running multiple power supplies for different GPUs in the future, make sure each GPU and it’s riser is powered from the same power supply.

 

[FunkyMonk]

@dk27 Yeah I have a 300W and a 450W to use. Thanks will check them out!

@Vassen Okay awesome thanks for clearing that up. Would it not be safer then to use multiple or is it just as risky and less efficient?

 

[Confucius]

@dk27 Yeah I have a 300W and a 450W to use. Thanks will check them out!

@Vassen Okay awesome thanks for clearing that up. Would it not be safer then to use multiple or is it just as risky and less efficient?

Think it’s less efficient. I don’t know too much of details. Like I didn’t check how many rails each power supply has. I’ve got different Corsair and some antec.

Becomes too much too worry and think about. Rather just use it safely and all should be good.

 

[Fiekie26]

Currently getting about 46.8-49.4 on ETH with my 3060 TI LHR with Nicehash with latest NBminer

 

[Confucius]

Which 3069ti do you have and what’s your overclocks? I’ve got an Asus tuf and a gigabyte gaming oc and the most I could get was 45 but even this was a bit unstable so I dropped it down to 44.

 

[Fiekie26]

Gigabyte gaming. Core -200 mem +1500.. PL 60.. mines got the Samsung memory

 

[Confucius]

Gigabyte gaming. Core -200 mem +1500.. PL 60.. mines got the Samsung memory

Thanks. Will try those settings.

 

[FunkyMonk]

Hey Guys

So my stuff arrived yesterday, planning on starting the build today after work and can not fricken wait! Managed to get this cooler master instead - https://www.wootware.co.za/cooler-m...t-dKq7U3iwrrDDf6WPC-U47Vs7LUTmV4aArwsEALw_wcB - and am returning the Corsair. The cooler master has 12 PCIe connectors so I can use 4 cables (1 for each GPU) then another 2 cables (1 for 2 risers) so everything should be powered safely without issue.

I have an old 9U or 12U server cabinet, not 100% sure, dust is an issue where I stay and also around Durban its going to be getting very hot. Would you guys recommend I make use of the server cabinet or make an open-air rig and just clean it regularly?

The other thing I want to know from you guys is what OS you use and why? I am most familiar with Windows however I have heard and read that comes with a plethora of issues and requires very hands-on use. I am leaning towards HiveOS as it seems like the industry leader and a lot of people swear by it. Then again I have used NiceHash before and enjoyed it because of how simple and easy it was on Windows, I figured their OS cant be much harder to use. I don't mind a bit of work to set it up but ultimately I want to set it and leave it whilst making the most profit possible.

Thanks again guys, you have been most helpful.

Regards

FM

 

[FunkyMonk]

Another thing is which wallet is everyone preferred choice and why? It seems as though there are an insane amount out there to choose from and with all the scams that have happened of late I am very sceptical of which one I should consider using.

 

[Confucius]

The cooler master has 12 PCIe connectors so I can use 4 cables (1 for each GPU) then another 2 cables (1 for 2 risers) so everything should be powered safely without issue.

I don’t really like the coolermaster as they come with 6 pin connectors. The 150w power limit per connector is based on using 8 pin connectors so not sure how coolermaster gets away with with. I believe others have however successfully used the coolermaster.

Regarding the server cabinets, if you go with it then you need to add some serious fans and that makes things a lot more noisy.

Regarding OS, I’m using windows on all rigs. I tried the NiceHash miner and didn’t like it as was limited in terms of overclocks. I’m thinking of playing around with hiveos though but haven’t used it this far.

 

[Confucius]

Another thing is which wallet is everyone preferred choice and why? It seems as though there are an insane amount out there to choose from and with all the scams that have happened of late I am very sceptical of which one I should consider using.

Here you have many options and depends what your end goal is. An exchange an allow you to cash out easily while a cold wallet like ledger or Trezor can be used for long term holding.

 

[Induna]

Another thing is which wallet is everyone preferred choice and why? It seems as though there are an insane amount out there to choose from and with all the scams that have happened of late I am very sceptical of which one I should consider using.

I am using (mining directly to) Exodus Desktop wallet, which I then link to my Trezor Hardware wallet. It is much safer than an exchange, and then you only transfer your coins to an exchange when you want to cash it out.

 

[dk27]

I am using (mining directly to) Exodus Desktop wallet, which I then link to my Trezor Hardware wallet. It is much safer than an exchange, and then you only transfer your coins to an exchange when you want to cash it out.

Are your solo mining?
How do you setup for that and what’s your HR if you’re solo (and don’t mind)?

 

[Induna]

Are your solo mining?
How do you setup for that and what’s your HR if you’re solo (and don’t mind)?

Hi, no I am pool mining. I haven't tried solo yet because my farm is still too small ...

 

[Henlo.recycle]

I'm in a similar boat than you. ATM I'm mining on 1660S, 1660TI, 2080TI & 2060S but was thinking of buying a few 3060TI next. Mining on Nicehash with a few cards at the moment & with the rest I'm mining on Hive, must say Hive is much better & there much more settings you can adjust, I'm mining through Hive to Nicehash. You can also look into server PSU's, I'm using 1 from Parallel miner, it's excellent PSU's & have 16 x PCIE cables. Please update us on your setup & how you find the 3060 Ti's.

 

[FunkyMonk]

Hey Guys

Thanks as always for the advice and help along the way, It's greatly appreciated. I know it has been some time but everything is finally up and running and has been for a little over a couple of hours now so I thought I would give an update.

My cards are getting an average of 42Mh/s my highest card getting 44Mh/s and lowest getting 41Mh/s. They all have Hynix memory using 130W each and sitting at around 65 degrees celcius.

 

[dk27]

Hey Guys

Thanks as always for the advice and help along the way, It's greatly appreciated. I know it has been some time but everything is finally up and running and has been for a little over a couple of hours now so I thought I would give an update.

My cards are getting an average of 42Mh/s my highest card getting 44Mh/s and lowest getting 41Mh/s. They all have Hynix memory using 130W each and sitting at around 65 degrees celcius.

Congrats!

Do you have to use dummy hdmi plugs and can they all run on risers?

Do they need to be using x8/x16 lanes if on risers or not?

I’m using some 3060 FHR now and have to make do with those requirements..

 

[FunkyMonk]

Thanks but my "success story" was short lived. I did not use dummy hdmi plugs and all GPU's are on riser cards.

I am using x16 and x1 slots if that answers your question?

Everything was fine for the day while mining then a headache arose.. I tried to increase the power limit in oc settings from 130w to 138w then after rebooting the system it wont boot and I couldnt access BIOS. CPU and DRAM on Q-LED lights flash repeatedly while GPU lights flash on and off as well. Tried changing PCI speeds then still no POST but VGA light in Q-LED comes on. Any combination of 3 GPU's boots fine but as soon as I add a fourth I get no POST. Has anyone experienced similar issue to this and is anyone able to help?

Still mining with 3 cards without issues. No hdmi dummy plugs using x16 and x1 slots.

Thanks in advance.

 

[FunkyMonk]

Just an update, managed to get all 4 cards working again with thanks to the help of a fellow Carbie, there was a setting in BIOS which I changed which should not have been changed and i moved one of the risers out of the first x16 slot, I am not sure what exactly did the trick but its up and running again. Fans running at 60% which brought my temps down a bit and im getting 42-45Mh/s on my cards.

 

[Confucius]

I’ve recently started using the absolute core clock settings on trex miner with positive results.

Before this, I would just configure the overclocks on afterburner and for the lhr 3060ti, was using around 155w for 45MH. Now with setting the overclocks directly in trex, I’ve dropped the power to 122,118 and 139w for my 3 x 3060ti. Hashrate is between 45-46. As a result, temperatures are a lot better as well 61,56,48 degrees.

Still playing around with it but thus far seems a lot more stable as the overclocks don’t reset.