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Honestly I'm disappointed.

So my first Ducky is a Shine 7 Blackout edition. And it does some things very well, and others ok, but it also makes a quality misstep of the lowest order.
Some of this is perhaps still early days (2nd day with the board and this is the most I've typed with it), so the feel for instance may improve a little after I've written a 1000 page novel or two. And yes some of it may be a little nitpicky, but that's something that becomes a concern when confronted with what is constantly termed as 'quality'.


First let's cover the stuff it does well:
1. The double foot system is amazing, almost worthy of recommending Ducky for all by itself, especially if you are unhappy with the height levels of your current keyboard. This allows a level fine-tuning you just don't usually get and elevates the comfort of the keyboard a lot.
2. USB-C is a huge plus as it means I can hot-swap the Ducky with my MK850 or any future gaming keyboards I might get using the same cable setup. So on a whim I can reach over and grab either one and switch them as needed or wanted.
3. The dust cover is really nice and unlike the one provided with the MK850 it's one can I actually use whilst the keyboard is plugged in because it doesn't extend so low as to be stopped by the cable like that one does. And it's moulded to all the individual keys rather than key areas.
4. The top metal zinc alloy plate is nice and solid as all hell, all keyboards should have metal top plates. It would be better if it was sanded though a not so rough-feeling.
5. The Year of the Pig spacebar is fun and I appreciate the extra key caps, even if they're much more pinkish than I'd prefer.
6. A Calc button is appreciated.
7. Software to control RGB is appreciated and works well.
8. The included keyring I got features what appears to be a full MX Blue switch and that's really nice because it automatically lets me demo the switch and gives me something to fiddle with on my desk whilst I'm watching something.
9. The RGB is hella strong. I prefer a more subdued brightness which on most keyboards is dimming to around 50-60% but on this it's almost just before turning it off.


And now it's already time to head to the neutral and negative zone.

The typeface is ok, doesn't look as odd as Corsair's, but could definitely be a lot better, I'll talk more about this later.
Typing feel is indeed premium feeling. However no more premium than the two other keyboards I've owed with metal top plates, the Redragon Yama and the CoolerMaster MK850. And it seems a little scratchy at the moment, that may still change, but who knows.
The keys, the PBT double-shot plastic they make so much of, feel good, but again no better than on any new premium boards. Could be they'll retain this feeling for longer and end up superior that way but I own another PBT item and I was expecting to like it as much as that but I just don't. The CoolerMaster MM830 mouse is also PBT and is the nicest electronic thing to touch I've ever owned , I just about don't want to take my hand off it and if I didn't own other mice I have more fun with I wouldn't. So I was expecting a keyboard that feels like that because the material is supposed to be the same but they're just not as good, they feel more like regular new keys than the premium feel of that mouse.
And for all the talk of how premium Duckys are, the keys are no more solid than on any other board I've owned. They still wobble just as much on the switch....actually maybe the switch is more to blame for that, but either way it's not premium. Not that any other keyboard does better, but they also don't do worse.
The included key puller is worthless as the keys are so solidly holding onto the switch that it's just completely incapable of removing them. I had to resort to my old method of popping them out with a pocket-knife.
Even the foot system unfortunately has a problem with it as well. Because the Shine 7 is so heavy the feet are not rigid enough to allow intentional pushing of the keyboard around the desk. If you push it back they simply fold back in and the keyboard falls down. Sure this may be unique to the crazy heavy Shine 7 but I'd expect a company where the word 'quality' gets thrown around so much to realise that and make the foot system more rigid, Cooler Master did on the MK850 (even if they screwed up the heights).
This next one is super nitpicky but the demo RGB mode and speed is frankly schizophrenic. If you bought the keyboard because you thought it looked cool you should be shot.
The Num/Caps/Scroll lock notification lights, which mind you are a listed feature on this keyboard, are utterly pointless. Yes they're bright but they also hidden behind keys so unless you're hovering over your keyboard when you type you will never seem them. Something different should have been done there.


And now it's time to engage rant mode.
First let's talks about a keyboard with tons of features having software to control the RGB but not all the other features of the keyboard. Why? That's inexcusable! Yes I appreciate being able to manipulate a keyboard without software but if you are making software for your keyboard you have exactly zero reason to offer less control through that software than the keyboard itself. Companies turning out cheap garbage can do it so why not you a supposed pantheon of the keyboarding world?!

And now get the really big one. Something that infuriates me the more I think about it.
Ducky's are supposed to be quality right? That's why people keep telling others to get them. So why then is there so much shadowing in the typeface? It shows an inexcusable lack of quality in my opinion. The key shadowing on my Redragon Yama isn't great either and easily what I'd identify as what most defines it as a keyboard from a cheap brand...and it's still miles better than this.

Let's look at just the 60% section

Shadowing on the @ symbol, ampersand, hash, exclamation mark, dollar sign...actually let's stop there and just say on basically every symbol key. Also wtf is up with that dash/minus + underscore key? That looks beyond daft. Shadowing on Caps and the B key.


It's not so clear on the pic but they even managed to give me one perfect Alt on the right and shadowed one on the left.....what in the actual fuck...


And you're going to take the time to create this fancy ass 2nd-spacebar and then allow shadowing on your own name?!!!! (Look at the Y)


Oh and that's not even the worst of it:

Just look at that SHIT.
That level of shadowing I expect from a cheapass nasty gamerified 150 buck fart of a keyboard, not something classed as quality. Look at whatever keyboard you have on your desk and I guarantee it looks better, all of mine certainly do, including my very first shitpile gamer keyboard I've had for over a decade. What's the point of keys that will last 1000 years if they already look worse than a 100 buck keyboard after 2-3 sweaty summers???
That shit is the equivalent of a wannabe Rolls using smoky acrylic for all the windows/screens.
Quality my arse...after I've taken an explosive diarrhoea shit and not wiped yet.





So eh, let's see overall. I'm glad I got the Ducky, it is mostly nice. But I'm also glad it's supposed to last better than anything else because I certainly don't want to be buying another one. It's good that it comes with a dust-cover because it will be using it a lot whilst I try out more innovative keyboards of comparable or better quality, even if they be gamer keyboards. I suppose if I was in the habit of typing out novels, or coding, I'd have a much more favourable view, but for a general user like me it's best to stick to "gimmicky" gamer keyboards that actually push the usability envelope whilst still supplying sufficient quality levels...and less shadowy keys.
I'm also extremely glad I got the Shine 7 and not the One2 because that would have been almost entirely disappointing without the metal top plate.
 
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Nice view on the keyboard, you must also consider that most people getting/that own Ducky keyboards don't dive in depth as you have and don't look for those tiny unsettling details. Most reason people get Ducky keyboard imo is the hype really, either randomfrankp/Brandon Taylor/Badseed Tech/Tfue probably convinced them what a wonder it is.

I for one don't even look at my keyboard ever when gaming. Where as you obviously do way more than gaming, so it is understandable, really cool to see a 100% honest, different view for once and not just riding the hype train. I am sorry it didn't live up to the hype though.

You should consider making a youtube review on it, I am sure it will help a lot of people looking for totally transparent review.
 
100% with you on the shadowing!
Below are the photos of my Ducky One 2 mini. All keys have 0 issues except for the custom ones. I can’t see sh!t lol
(The WASD I installed custom ones too and they display correct)
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However on the key cap removal tool, mine worked without any issues as I used it for the above mentioned keys.
Oh, and running the RGB in "White"has a slightly pink tint to it, anybody else have this?

All said above, I am over the moon with the change in form factor from a full to a 60%, and all other quality mentioned in @SCHUMI4EVER positives.


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Ive got two ducky keyboards one is mx reds and the other is mx whites i think.

So far i love the mx whites they similar to mx blacks but require a bit more force. The mx reds i bought it because i thought lemme give them a go again as ive had them before and i didnt enjoy them. Well i still dislike them as they too soft xD

My key remover works on both keyboards.

I have the non backlight keyboards since i use my pc with the lights on :p and i tend to look at my screen more than my kboard.

I havent noticed much of a difference from my old steelseries kboard but for the price of R1250 it was worth. If i can get mx whites or mx greens in a tkl i might buy one.

Surprisingly my one keyboard is micro usb which annoyed me a bit and my other one is usb type c so i cant simply switch them out.
 
Yet, I'd still buy it over all the other trash from Corsair/Logitech/Razer ect.
Nothing feels like a Ducky, the build quality (The frame, the key caps) and the way they feel when typing is unmatched.

The only thing I wasn't all that pleased with was a little bit of fade on one of the keys (Light not coming through 100%), but other than that I couldn't be happier, in fact I'll be buying a mini this week.
 
Ok look I get being excited about Duckies if you are after 60%, there's not much competition out there and certainly none as competent in SA.

I even get being excited if you are after TKL because you aren't really giving anything up VS those keyboards and VS those cheaper lighter boards the Ducky's construction might well crush them.

But in the full KB space I really don't feel like they offer much. Again maybe if I'm typing all day I'd feel different but I'm not. As soon as you've got a metal top plate you've got enough rigidity and even some plastics get it right. And you don't need to go to Ducky to get that, the Shine 7 is my 3rd keyboard with metal top plate. And each of those keyboards offers me more. The only thing they don't offer me is the PBT keys but so far those haven't really impressed me. Anything else other keyboards do as good or better.


If I were to suddenly feel the need for a 60% though I absolutely would get the Mecha Mini they just released despite all the flaws I've mentioned and even if all the keys have shadowing.
On the topic of 60% and TKL, I don't know whether it was part of Rebeltech's haul, but they've also got the One2 SF which is like a middle ground between TKL and 60% which I reckon would sound rather amazing to me if I was looking for something in that size.
It's really just full-size where I feel they offer too little value.
 
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Yet, I'd still buy it over all the other trash from Corsair/Logitech/Razer ect.
Nothing feels like a Ducky, the build quality (The frame, the key caps) and the way they feel when typing is unmatched.

The only thing I wasn't all that pleased with was a little bit of fade on one of the keys (Light not coming through 100%), but other than that I couldn't be happier, in fact I'll be buying a mini this week.

You know what nothing feels like and what I thought the mechanical craze was all about bringing back? Buckling spring keys on the old IBM keyboards. There's your real clackety clack, no need for fake clickiness courtesy of the Germans. Now that was satisfying to hack away on.

I'll give you there are a lot trash gimmicky keyboards out there in the gamer space, or ones that offer no more than a Ducky, but there are also a lot of premium feeling keyboards, especially in the upper Echelons, and then there's the Redragon Yama.

But again, I get being excited about Ducky's less the full KB offerings. Enjoy.
 
100% with you on the shadowing!
Below are the photos of my Ducky One 2 mini. All keys have 0 issues except for the custom ones. I can’t see sh!t lol
(The WASD I installed custom ones too and they display correct)
486f94ac6e5d7e8207c7ee29da16473d.jpg
e00c173f59a32f340b21fbe7cfcc1cec.jpg


However on the key cap removal tool, mine worked without any issues as I used it for the above mentioned keys.
Oh, and running the RGB in "White"has a slightly pink tint to it, anybody else have this?

All said above, I am over the moon with the change in form factor from a full to a 60%, and all other quality mentioned in @SCHUMI4EVER positives.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Oh wow, I'm only noticing that now that the custom key caps actually aren't RGB friendy at all and just have the usual printed label. That's just dafter than daft...but at least they're clean-looking unlike those Numpad keys.

By the way I just tried pulling off one of my arrow keys and only succeeded in lifting the keyboard into the air. I suppose I should applaud that solid construction but what's the point if the key itself is still as capable of wobbling as on any other keyboard and I've never had issues with keys simply flying off their switches...
I also had to damn near stand on my keyboard to get my Numpad return key in place.
 
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Nice view on the keyboard, you must also consider that most people getting/that own Ducky keyboards don't dive in depth as you have and don't look for those tiny unsettling details. Most reason people get Ducky keyboard imo is the hype really, either randomfrankp/Brandon Taylor/Badseed Tech/Tfue probably convinced them what a wonder it is.

I for one don't even look at my keyboard ever when gaming. Where as you obviously do way more than gaming, so it is understandable, really cool to see a 100% honest, different view for once and not just riding the hype train. I am sorry it didn't live up to the hype though.

You should consider making a youtube review on it, I am sure it will help a lot of people looking for totally transparent review.
You're the second person now to mention Youtube haha. It's something I think about more and more these days. One the one hand why should I ever get anywhere when each day there's another 1000 people or so trying to become one of the big names. But on the other hand I definitely do look at things differently and there's pretty much always something I find lacking in any of the reviews I do watch so there is value I have to add.... maybe.

But in the end what holds me back is infrastructure basically, both the initial outlay for competent recording gear and the fact I'd have to buy everything I want to review. Now and then I'd have competent top tier tech people actually care about but a lot of the time to keep content flowing I'd probably have to review garbage that people likely wouldn't feel the need to watch anyways. Plus I reckon people wouldn't really care for my mug or voice and thus would never give my opinion much of a chance. Plus if I do somehow get biggish I'm so far out of the OEM's usually supply lines that I'd never really get to join the fun.


There is however another piece of tech I also acquired along with the Ducky and that I'm much more pleased with which I reckon I will also be doing a (text-based) review on. (And no, it's not the Model O). But it needs to be put through it's paces more whereas with the Ducky, even though I haven't spent much time with it I already feel my view on everything is pretty much set.
 
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You're the second person now to mention Youtube haha. It's something I think about more and more these days. One the one hand why should I ever get anywhere when each day there's another 1000 people or so trying to become one of the big names. But on the other hand I definitely do look at things differently and there's pretty much always something I find lacking in any of the reviews I do watch so there is value I have to add.... maybe.

But in the end what holds me back is infrastructure basically, both the initial outlay for competent recording gear and the fact I'd have to buy everything I want to review. Now and then I'd have competent top tier tech people actually care about but a lot of the time to keep content flowing I'd probably have to review garbage that people likely wouldn't feel the need to watch anyways. Plus I reckon people wouldn't really care for my mug or voice and thus would never give my opinion much of a chance. Plus if I do somehow get biggish I'm so far out of the OEM's usually supply lines that I'd never really get to join the fun.


There is however another piece of tech I also acquired along with the Ducky and that I'm much more pleased with which I reckon I will also be doing a (text-based) review on. (And no, it's not the Model O). But it needs to be put through it's paces more whereas with the Ducky, even though I haven't spent much time with it I already feel my view on everything is pretty much set.
Seriously consider youtube/blogging, I can feel the passion! I can't wait to read the next one ^^, like seeing open minded reviews, always a good read.
 
I prefer a review from a keyboard persons perspective rather then my own and not owning a ducky myself gives me clear insight wonderfully written essay here and if you do decide on starting a channel let me know @SCHUMI4EVER as per our discussion earlier ciao.
 
Thank you for your review. I think it will most certainly help people in the market for a new keyboard. I know I bought my One Horizon based on some feedback on this forum.

However, this is honestly the first time I have read a keyboard review where most of the focus is around the RGB lights. Surely not everyone gets RGB stuff? Do people need the lights to type better? Are people really looking down at the lights while typing?
Everyone compares the modern mech keyboard with how amazing the IBM one used to be, yet we fault them on niche features that are clearly just there as marketing gimmick?

Not trying to be negative :)
 
Thank you for your review. I think it will most certainly help people in the market for a new keyboard. I know I bought my One Horizon based on some feedback on this forum.

However, this is honestly the first time I have read a keyboard review where most of the focus is around the RGB lights. Surely not everyone gets RGB stuff? Do people need the lights to type better? Are people really looking down at the lights while typing?
Everyone compares the modern mech keyboard with how amazing the IBM one used to be, yet we fault them on niche features that are clearly just there as marketing gimmick?

Not trying to be negative :)

The focus is on RGB?
Well yes, I harp on the shadowing but it's not because the RGB doesn't shine through, it's because even without RGB having incomplete legends like that looks dirty as hell. I could live with it just being weakly illuminated as long as it still looked clean. I mean it'd be stupid, and even the keys they got right could definitely illuminate even more with a bigger wider typeface, but it was clean I'd accept it, as I said I prefer my RGB more subdued anyways.

Also keep in mind my keyboard is called 'Shine' and Ducky themselves make a big deal of the RGB. I didn't pick it because of that though, I picked it because the Blackout Edition was the first Ducky that spoke to me aesthetically.
 
Too much to read...

I've tried many full sized keyboards... The Ducky's and WASD offerings were the best so far.

I buy a keyboard for the best typing experience, as that is what I do all day. I don't care for backlit or RGB, because the last time I looked down at my keyboard was in 2010. For typing, I have yet to find something to even match the ducky, never mind better it.

None of the other local okes come close to the sound and touch to the Ducky.

I see that the RGB and shadowing are definitely problems, I would also be negative about that. Unacceptable really. Luckily, it means nothing to me.

As to the rest, it is nitpicking. Looking for a fault. If we were to put a Corsair or Razer under the same looking glass we would probably write a book on all the faults and where it could be improved. (Not that you used these as comparison, just putting it out there.)

The Ducky's cost the same as the other 'high end' boards. Yet they are superior and more premium in so many ways, most prominent of all is the typing experience. If that is not a metric to elevate yourself above the rest I have no idea what would be.

edit: I am not preaching that the Ducky is the best board out there, however it is the best we can purchase locally.
 
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^ With that said, I agree with your review.

For a casual user where the form is more important than function, rather get something else.

If you are in it for the most premium typing experience available in our market, Ducky is without a doubt your best option.

Do want some of my thoughts on the switches @SCHUMI4EVER?
 
^ With that said, I agree with your review.

For a casual user where the form is more important than function, rather get something else.

If you are in it for the most premium typing experience available in our market, Ducky is without a doubt your best option.

Do want some of my thoughts on the switches @SCHUMI4EVER?

Keep in mind that to a gamer there are two stages of function on a keyboard.

One the one hand it's how nicely it types, which would translate to how nice using the WASD cluster feels. But on the other hand it's how nicely the "gimmicks" function. How much control you have over macros and what their placement is and what else there might be.
The Ducky might offer the best of the prior (though I'm still not convinced of that), but since it does far less than many other keyboards attempt with the latter I feel that as soon as you are around the 75-80% mark of typing quality then if the gimmicks are solid and work as intended they're pushing it ahead of whatever quality advantage a Ducky might have in form.

And yes, I could tear any other keyboard a new one too, for instance I say the MK850 has comparable typing quality but it's certainly also got some major flaws and could have been designed a fair bit better. But they don't have anywhere near the hype that Ducky has locally so I don't need to. People aren't always on about how they offer superior quality to anything else, a hype wagon which must be destroyed in my opinion. You can say they're great, but they certainly are not as vastly superior as people make them out to be.


Umm...I didn't think it'd be fair to the board the discuss the switches since they're standard switches and most other boards allow you to pick the ones you like. But it turns out I'm not a fan. I think I may prefer off-brand switches, ones that ape Cherry but do so with less severity making for a more laid-back switch that becomes more of a hybrid feel than adhering to the strict feel "rules" Cherry switches set forth. I also think I may prefer low profile switches as I'd like there to be less travel. I was expecting a smoother more rigid depression feeling from the Ducky but I didn't get that (and when I say smooth I don't mean the linearity, I mean the stability of the key itself).
There's definitely a Roccat Vulcan in my future but it'll have to wait till next year.
 
Keep in mind that to a gamer there are two stages of function on a keyboard.

One the one hand it's how nicely it types, which would translate to how nice using the WASD cluster feels. But on the other hand it's how nicely the "gimmicks" function. How much control you have over macros and what their placement is and what else there might be.
The Ducky might offer the best of the prior (though I'm still not convinced of that), but since it does far less than many other keyboards attempt with the latter I feel that as soon as you are around the 75-80% mark of typing quality then if the gimmicks are solid and work as intended they're pushing it ahead of whatever quality advantage a Ducky might have in form.

And yes, I could tear any other keyboard a new one too, for instance I say the MK850 has comparable typing quality but it's certainly also got some major flaws and could have been designed a fair bit better. But they don't have anywhere near the hype that Ducky has locally so I don't need to. People aren't always on about how they offer superior quality to anything else, a hype wagon which must be destroyed in my opinion. You can say they're great, but they certainly are not as vastly superior as people make them out to be.


Umm...I didn't think it'd be fair to the board the discuss the switches since they're standard switches and most other boards allow you to pick the ones you like. But it turns out I'm not a fan. I think I may prefer off-brand switches, ones that ape Cherry but do so with less severity making for a more laid-back switch that becomes more of a hybrid feel than adhering to the strict feel "rules" Cherry switches set forth. I also think I may prefer low profile switches as I'd like there to be less travel. I was expecting a smoother more rigid depression feeling from the Ducky but I didn't get that (and when I say smooth I don't mean the linearity, I mean the stability of the key itself).
There's definitely a Roccat Vulcan in my future but it'll have to wait till next year.

Personally I also didn't like cherry mx blues and my personal favourite switches are outemu blues and gateron browns
 
Personally I also didn't like cherry mx blues and my personal favourite switches are outemu blues and gateron browns

These are Cherry Browns (sorry, told him that in PM) but yeah. I think my favourite switch so far is the Otemu Purple on the Yama. It's tactile whilst being almost as smooth as the Reds. And I have a feeling I'd like Gateron and Kail-H browns too. And want to try Cherry Silver/Speed at some point, maybe Silent Reds. But the main 3, Brown, Red and Blue I'm not a fan of.
 
These are Cherry Browns (sorry, told him that in PM) but yeah. I think my favourite switch so far is the Otemu Purple on the Yama. It's tactile whilst being almost as smooth as the Reds. And I have a feeling I'd like Gateron and Kail-H browns too. And want to try Cherry Silver/Speed at some point, maybe Silent Reds. But the main 3, Brown, Red and Blue I'm not a fan of.
We can so quickly derail a keyboard thread by switch talk though... :D

Kailh coppers... Dude... My dude... Best feeling switch I have typed on... Feels like a soft, smooth cherry Red with tactile feedback. Getting an Ergo Dox with the coppers sometime this month or next depending on shipping and customs. Again, this very subjective...

I love MX Blues and MX Brows... But it is never fair to judge a keyboard by it's switches. Although it is extremely difficult to do so, since you can't comment on any typing experience without bringing in the switch. :D

Again, I just want to iterate that I do agree with your review. I just feel that it is superior because of the typing experience compared to the other brands. Although I will concede that I have yet to try some of the newer boards. My tastes are now more into what is available in the custom world...
 
We can so quickly derail a keyboard thread by switch talk though... :D

Kailh coppers... Dude... My dude... Best feeling switch I have typed on... Feels like a soft, smooth cherry Red with tactile feedback. Getting an Ergo Dox with the coppers sometime this month or next depending on shipping and customs. Again, this very subjective...

I love MX Blues and MX Brows... But it is never fair to judge a keyboard by it's switches. Although it is extremely difficult to do so, since you can't comment on any typing experience without bringing in the switch. :D

Again, I just want to iterate that I do agree with your review. I just feel that it is superior because of the typing experience compared to the other brands. Although I will concede that I have yet to try some of the newer boards. My tastes are now more into what is available in the custom world...

Yeah haha, precisely why tried not to mention them much.
Unless it's an off-brand switch that's garbage and the only switch the keyboard comes with I don't think it's fair to grade a keyboard on the switch.
 
Great honest review. When items are classed as premium, charged at a premium then that is what you should get. Sure they have great some great points but that's not premium.

Let's see a Ferrari driver find a dim interior light and see all hell break loose.

It's only when buyers stop with the starry eyed review and tell it like it is when actual issues are addressed and premium products are released. Don't settle for the issues, even if you think they're quirky or small, They're issues and must be fixed. It's not petty if you're paying a premium, it's just expected.
 
I'm glad to finally see a truly honest review about a Ducky keyboard, everything I've seen/heard over the years about Ducky has just been people jizzing about some intangible thing that just makes them gods gift to keyboards. I was actually looking at Rebeltech to get one now till I read your review. THANKS BRO :)

As I suspected, they make great keyboards but not PERFECT keyboards like some owners will have you believe.
 
I'm glad to finally see a truly honest review about a Ducky keyboard, everything I've seen/heard over the years about Ducky has just been people jizzing about some intangible thing that just makes them gods gift to keyboards. I was actually looking at Rebeltech to get one now till I read your review. THANKS BRO :)

As I suspected, they make great keyboards but not PERFECT keyboards like some owners will have you believe.

I probably mentioned this before but as an Anne Pro 2 user I've never been interested in ducky. Got a friend to get an ap2 recently as well even
 
It's been a year, and some.

"... whilst I try out more innovative keyboards of comparable or better quality, even if they be gamer keyboards..."

How is this going for you?
 

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