Random FPS Drops - Please Help

Dizi · Sep 25, 2018

I have a Acer Nitro Aspire AN515-52 Gaming laptop.
The specs are: i5-8300H (Turbo Boosted to 3.8GHz), 8GB RAM, GTX 1050 4GB, 258GB Crucial SSD. 2TB HDD, WIN 10 Home.

I keep getting random FPS drops in literally every game I play (Even if the Graphics Quality is on low), even in CS:GO.

I have disabled Game DVR, and I have watched my temps and nothing is wrong (Using HWMonitor). In Task manager both the GPU and the CPU spike when the FPS Drops. The GPU runs at 100% most of the time but i dont see how it will be an issue?

Please if anyone has ideas, please do let me know.

mradovan · Sep 25, 2018

Maybe antivirus or search indexer...
Does the drive activity also spike?
Can you isolate the process that spikes the CPU - is it the game itself?

Dizi · Sep 25, 2018

It is the game that spikes, but the CPU only runs at 40%-45% with out a issue. Anti-virus wont be a issue as I'm using windows defender.
The Drive keeps steady with no issues.

mradovan · Sep 25, 2018

Is the game running off the HDD?
If so, maybe try to run it off the SSD.
Not saying it shouldn't run well of the HDD, but to eliminate drive/SATA issue (fastest to do probably by using mklink /J).

RAM not full, I assume?

souljazk · Sep 25, 2018

What temps are you getting? I think at around 80degrees the GPU will self throttle but I could be wrong.

Dizi · Sep 25, 2018

souljazk said:
What temps are you getting? I think at around 80degrees the GPU will self throttle but I could be wrong.

Funny enough it cant read GPU Temps. Know of any software that can?

Dizi · Sep 25, 2018

mradovan said:
Is the game running off the HDD?
If so, maybe try to run it off the SSD.
Not saying it shouldn't run well of the HDD, but to eliminate drive/SATA issue (fastest to do probably by using mklink /J).

RAM not full, I assume?

RAM isn't full at all and i thought it would be. The game is installed on the SSD. Vampyr is installed on the HDD but same thing occurs

TheRealRoko · Sep 25, 2018

GPU-Z is pretty decent lightweight client for reading temps.

Dizi · Sep 25, 2018

TheRealRoko said:
GPU-Z is pretty decent lightweight client for reading temps.

Thank you.

RandomSheepZA · Sep 26, 2018

Can i ask what GPU you have?
MSI Afterburner works for most GPU's and it will give you CPU temp, utilization on CPU and memory.

dotnerd · Sep 26, 2018

Did you by any chance install the 411.63 nVidia driver? Ever since I did that I get frame drops. But my system is wildly different to yours. One common bit would be nVidia. I am losing around 30-40fps on average since the upgrade.

Off-The-Chart · Sep 26, 2018

when the spike happens, can't you see in Task Manager what is making use of the GPU?

RandomSheepZA · Sep 26, 2018

Sorry didn't see you had the GPU there.

CRE4MPIE · Sep 26, 2018

TheeDizi said:
Funny enough it cant read GPU Temps. Know of any software that can?

Install MSI Afterburner .... play game - where you experience frame drops , check your GPU temps / utilization etc etc ..

_Blake_ · Sep 26, 2018

Had a similar problem on my ROG laptop.
for me the problem was the polling rate on my mouse - replaced with a cheapie and the problem went away.

Dizi · Sep 26, 2018

Off-The-Chart said:
when the spike happens, can't you see in Task Manager what is making use of the GPU?

It spikes both CPU and GPU

Dizi · Sep 26, 2018

CRE4MPIE said:
Install MSI Afterburner .... play game - where you experience frame drops , check your GPU temps / utilization etc etc ..

That's what I'm about to do. Thanks man.

Dizi · Sep 26, 2018

kyle_blake said:
Had a similar problem on my ROG laptop.
for me the problem was the polling rate on my mouse - replaced with a cheapie and the problem went away.

I have changed my mouse and still the same thing.

Off-The-Chart · Sep 26, 2018

TheeDizi said:
It spikes both CPU and GPU

yes I know, but in Task Manager you should be able to see what uses it when the spikes happen

Star_22 · Sep 26, 2018

Check the gpu/cpu clock speeds when the spikes happen. Maybe they are going to a lower power state or something. Also check the power options in settings is set to performance.

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Inkwe · Sep 26, 2018

Star_22 said:
Check the gpu/cpu clock speeds when the spikes happen. Maybe they are going to a lower power state or something. Also check the power options in settings is set to performance.

This. 100% utilisation at reduced clock speeds is a very likely consequence from thermal throttling. If I have to guess I'd say that's your issue.

Flex · Sep 26, 2018

Laptops run hot. Especially if you are running it on a flat surface with no cooling.
99% sure it is over heating, and 1% sure it is battery/power setting. If it is plugged in and still happens then I reckon it is over heating.

Get a cheap cooling pad with a fan. Happened to me when I had my MSI gaming laptop a while back, and made a worlds difference

Dizi · Sep 26, 2018

Star_22 said:
Check the gpu/cpu clock speeds when the spikes happen. Maybe they are going to a lower power state or something. Also check the power options in settings is set to performance.

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The setting where set to high performance. Do you think it could be bottlenecking?

Dizi · Sep 26, 2018

Flex said:
Laptops run hot. Especially if you are running it on a flat surface with no cooling.
99% sure it is over heating, and 1% sure it is battery/power setting. If it is plugged in and still happens then I reckon it is over heating.

Get a cheap cooling pad with a fan. Happened to me when I had my MSI gaming laptop a while back, and made a worlds difference

I have got a Cooling pad from Astrum because i know that laptops Overheat easily. My laptop doesnt go above 70 degrees.

Dizi · Sep 26, 2018

Inkwe said:
This. 100% utilisation at reduced clock speeds is a very likely consequence from thermal throttling. If I have to guess I'd say that's your issue.

The attached pictures to show whats happening. I quickly jumped out of CS:GO to screen shot it. I have a feeling its bottlenecking but I really have got no idea. I reinstalled windows and still the same issue.

Inkwe · Sep 26, 2018

Hmmm. That's strange. Temps seem okay (not sure about the CPU temps?) and simultaneous drops in utilisation. I think fiddling with power management settings was already suggested so I'm assuming you've checked that already. The symptoms still look like temperature throttling to me but your screenshots suggest that may not be the case. Colour me confused. [emoji53]

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Star_22 · Sep 27, 2018

Can you send a pic of gpu-z sensor tab as soon as you have exited a game as that will be more helpful here to find out what's going on.

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_Blake_ · Sep 27, 2018

What about trying a different OS?
Windows 7 perhaps? - i remember reading a while back about direct X issues in windows 10 causing stuttering in games.

Oops!!! · Sep 27, 2018

are you running an actual SSD or NVME drive?

I've been battling to figure the exact same issue as it only happened in certain games.

Found my NVME drive was overheating causing the fps to randomly drop.

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